It seems this has brought out people who don't normally read this list. Let me save you some tilting at windmills.
The philosophy of the ClamAV team has always been, when in doubt clamd will not run. There are many people, myself included, who disagree with this. We have made our objections known, and this is not how the devs choose to run their project. It is their right. I choose to run ClamAV anyway. Rant on if it makes you feel better, but you aren't going to change their view. What you SHOULD take from this is that you may want to change how your milter is set up, so that if clamd dies, unscanned mail is passed rather than rejected or temp-failed. Because if ever a signature database is corrupted, clamd won't run. If there is an empty signature db file, clamd won't run. There are probably other situations I can't think of right now that mean clamd won't run. I think even if the databases are older than a week, clamd won't run. Now, in the realm of my opinion: If you are running open-source software then you better be on a mailing list for it, your distro if not the packages themselves. Because the Clam team, frankly, owes you nothing. Literally, absolutely, nothing. They are not only giving you free software, but daily, hourly, and sometimes MINUTELY updates to the database. Free. If you stop using it, not only won't it hurt them one bit, it will save them bandwidth costs. Is it too much to ask that we take the initiative and keep up with what is available ? If they told us we had to check notes posted on their front door for updates, it would STILL be more than we deserve. I'm sorry, but I literally have no sympathy for people who use something for free, don't look at announcements for 6 months, then complain things stopped working. And if you think for a minute it would be any better with Microsoft or Norton or anyone else -- try dealing with a server that just decided it's now unlicensed for who knows what reason. The traffic on this is ridiculous. You don't like it, buy something, but stop whining already. ========================================================== Chris Candreva -- ch...@westnet.com -- (914) 948-3162 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester http://www.westnet.com/ _______________________________________________ Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: visit http://wiki.clamav.net http://www.clamav.net/support/ml