It seems this has brought out people who don't normally read this list. Let 
me save you some tilting at windmills.

The philosophy of the ClamAV team has always been, when in doubt clamd will 
not run. There are many people, myself included, who disagree with this. We 
have made our objections known, and this is not how the devs choose to run 
their project.

It is their right. I choose to run ClamAV anyway.

Rant on if it makes you feel better, but you aren't going to change their 
view.

What you SHOULD take from this is that you may want to change how your 
milter is set up, so that if clamd dies, unscanned mail is passed rather 
than rejected or temp-failed.

Because if ever a signature database is corrupted, clamd won't run. If there 
is an empty signature db file, clamd won't run. There are probably other 
situations I can't think of right now that mean clamd won't run. I think 
even if the databases are older than a week, clamd won't run.

Now, in the realm of my opinion: If you are running open-source software 
then you better be on a mailing list for it, your distro if not the packages 
themselves. 

Because the Clam team, frankly, owes you nothing. Literally, absolutely, 
nothing. They are not only giving you free software, but daily, hourly, and 
sometimes MINUTELY updates to the database. Free. If you stop using it, not 
only won't it hurt them one bit, it will save them bandwidth costs.

Is it too much to ask that we take the initiative and keep up with what is 
available ? If they told us we had to check notes posted on their front 
door for updates, it would STILL be more than we deserve.

I'm sorry, but I literally have no sympathy for people who use something for 
free, don't look at announcements for 6 months, then complain things stopped 
working. 

And if you think for a minute it would be any better with Microsoft or 
Norton or anyone else -- try dealing with a server that just decided it's 
now unlicensed for who knows what reason.

The traffic on this is ridiculous. You don't like it, buy something, but 
stop whining already.


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