John Rudd wrote:
>>> Most recent update from them was 3 months ago.
>> rsync rsync://rsync.mirror.msrbl.com/msrbl/MSRBL-SPAM.ndb
>> -rw-r--r-- 244643 2009/07/27 01:21:23 MSRBL-SPAM.ndb
>>
>> rsync rsync://rsync.mirror.msrbl.com/msrbl/MSRBL-Images.hdb
>> -rw-r--r-- 181337 2009/07/24 03:40:17 MSRBL-Images.hdb
> 
> rsync rsync://rsync.mirror.msrbl.com/msrbl/MSRBL-Images-FULL-SoN.hdb
> -rw-r--r--    19030813 2009/10/07 15:50:05 MSRBL-Images-FULL-SoN.hdb

Only the clueless would use that database.  I rest my case.

>>>> Only your orphaned botnet project.
>>> Still not orphaned, still not in need of a new version, and you're
>>> still not qualified to make that declaration.
>> Strange that others must provide patches for your project them, since
>> you haven't provided an update in nearly 3 years.
> 
> Only a very few sites seem to need it, making it, as far as I've
> observed, an edge condition.  Not a general need.  There hasn't been
> any OTHER reason to make changes to it.  If there was something
> critical and wide-spread, sure.  If there was a new feature to
> incorporate, sure.  Neither of those are true.  And, as I've said
> before, and you're well aware, the direction that the given patch goes
> isn't the direction I want to go with botnet.
> 
> The change doesn't need to be in the general dist.  The change doesn't
> fit the direction I want to go with the package.  There aren't any
> other reasons to update it.  So there hasn't been a need to update it
> in 3 years.  That doesn't make it orphaned.  It makes it "not in need
> of new releases".  If one of those needs comes up, if the plugin API
> changes, or if I see the need for a new feature, it will get
> addressed.

Anyone that follows the SpamAssassin mailing list knows otherwise.
Again, I rest my case.

> All of which gets back to: you have no business making announcements
> about projects for which you aren't a spokesperson.  So, when you do
> make those announcements, it's perfectly reasonable for someone to ask
> you back up your statement ... because your statements lack
> credibility.

Final thoughts:  It's my script, if I want to remove a database (with or
without justification), my prerogative.  I provide it freely to any and
all that want to use it.  If you or anyone else doesn't like that I have
removed a signature database that is no longer being updated, then don't
use my script.  That's your choice - there are other scripts available
or you can write your own and use it however you would like.

So now please crawl back under your rock and hibernate for a few more
years while others maintain your project for you.

Bill
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