On Wednesday 16 February 2005 09:30, John Gallagher wrote: > Your right 99.9999% of the people using computers are not Unix Admins. But > they sure have an impact on the amount of traffic generated by infected > systems sending email. > > While I agree that you should not hold up any code just so you can do a > release across the board. In the long run we all benefit when the software > is easy to install and maintain for all types of users. >
Thank you, finally someone understands what I am saying. As far as "giving Unix a bad name," I am not sure what dp meant, but again, if people would just read what I actually wrote, they would understand that I am of the mindset that we should be making Linux easier to use for all types of users, not just sysadmins. That would give Unix and Linux a good name. Keep in mind that serious, busy sysadmins don't have time to build and package all of the different tools they support in addition to clamav. 10 minutes each times all those different packages is still more time than some sysadmins have in a day. I know, because I have been a sysadmin. You are right this is NOT rocket science, but it is very time consuming. Remember, not every package builds correctly on every platform, even popular ones. Sorting out those problems eats a lot of time. Also keep in mind that some of those packages, like database and desktop software, can be huge and take an extraordinary amount of time to build; there may not be much time in a sysadmin's day for building even one more small package like clamav. And also keep in mind that Gramma Jones won't be using Linux and open software for long if her Konquerer web browser isn't fitted with the latest versions of Spamassassin and Clamav. She may not recognize a rogue web site, or a malicious link, if she can even see through those coke-bottle glasses she wears. Maybe you find the notion of senior citizens using Linux quite laughable, but I don't. I would like everyone on earth to be freed from the scourge of using that more popular, so-called O.S. Clamav is still a pre-release 1.0 package, and I don't expect everything to work just perfectly. But unlike a game or PDA interface, this is mission critical software, whether for a mail server or protecting a user from the horrors of the web. Once again, I am stating that I am not your enemy. Thank you John for seeing my point of view. Suggestion: How about a pre-release notification that would, in part, alert packagers to get a jump? Maybe 2 or 3 days before the support for the previously supported code is abandoned. Maybe won't work, but thought I'd throw it out there. -Hal _______________________________________________ http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users
