On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:01:24AM -0400, Jim Maul said:
> Keep in mind while i agree the instructions are a little messed up for 
> the current versions of the software it uses, the instructions are the 
> way they are to correct problems and certain small errors that occured 
> in older versions of the sofware.  Basically the instructions are 
> outdated in my opinion.  I dont believe the reason for the 
> clamscan/clamdscan linking is still a valid reason as well as other 
> "workarounds" that were put in place.  The instructions should be updated.
> 
> With that said, the person, yes, only 1 person, who created qmr is 
> obviously busy and this is not his full time job.  I think it is great 
> that he has taken this amount of time out of his everyday life to 
> provide this great service for everyone....cut him some slack will ya? 
> Saying "for no reason other than ignorance and gross stupidity" is quite 
> incorrect and even downright rude.  You have NO idea why he set up the 
> instructions this way and you yourself are making huge assumptions.  If 
> you have some constructive criticism here im sure it would be 
> appreciated but you previous comments were IMO not helpful at all.

Bear in mind that this is how most packaging is done.  I am a single
person, handling most of the work for clamav for Debian (Thomas, hi! -
does help me from time to time, but he has a full life as well).  I
doubt that the other packagers are working in teams to get clam into
their distributions either.

I grant you, each of us doing this work probably has bugs in our work -
we are all human, after all.  Just look at the debian BTS page for
clamav - it'll give you an idea of the bugs I've introduced :)

All that being said, I do not like packagers that break upstream
assumptions more than necessary - replacing clamdscan with clamscan is
just silly.  Leave it alone, and put a big fat warning CLAMD HAS HAD
STABILITY PROBLEMS - I RECOMMEND CLAMSCAN!!! all over the webpage.  I
have notes about stability problems in the README where appropriate.  I
fell that trying to obscure the normal functionality of a software
package in order to make something point-n-click is doing no one a
service, and making it harder to debug the real problems in it.

Thanks for listening,
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