On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 at 14:00:56 -0600, Joshua French wrote:
> 
> I am trying to find out the difference(s) between ClamAV's virus db and
> any given commercial product.  In the latter, I've noted that they have
> covered 70-80k viruses, whereas ClamAV has somewhere around 10k in its
> definitions.
> 
> Is this an apples and oranges comparison?  Does ClamAV's 10k not include
> variants in it's numbers, but does in fact cover them?
> 
> If anyone can provide some info regarding this, that would be most
> appreciated.
> 

I can see that Chris McKeever and Daniel J. McDonald provided some
opinion on a "number of recognised viruses" topic. They are right that
our priority is reacting to new viruses. We also add many signatures of
older viruses when time permits.

As a related note, I'm forwarding my message which I sent to
"postfix-users" mailing list about quickness of adding signatures of new
viruses. I spent a few hours on preparing this comparison so I think
that it deserves posting here as well :-) .

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:06:38 +0100
From: Tomasz Papszun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: What's the best Anti-virus software?
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 at 15:36:09 +0100, Marcel Weber wrote:
> [...]
> 
> If checking emails for virii is not too critical to you, you could give 
> a try to clamav. It's free, opensource and quite good (Well it gets 
> better from day to day ;-) ). I use it on two servers (not really high 
> traffic ones) together with amavisd-new with good results. It detects 
> about 12000 virii, compared to the 88000 virii sophos knows about. But 
> this covers most NEWER email virii. Of course, with sophos you get 
> quicker updates, as soon a new virus appears in the wild. With clamav it 
> takes sometimes a day or two until the signatures find their way into 
> the database.
> 

I'd like to contradict the last two sentences.

ClamAV adds signatures to it's database often more quickly than
commercial AV scanners.

As particularly Sophos was mentioned above, here you are a comparison
using dates of announcements of databases updates by ClamAV and by
Sophos. As examples, a few latest widely distributed viruses/trojans
are used.

Viruses' names used here are according to Sophos. Aliases are given in
brackets. Timestamps of announcements are in GMT.


             virusname                     ClamAV          Sophos
------------------------------------  ---------------  ---------------
W32/Sobig-F                            19 Aug  10:05    19 Aug  10:48
W32/SobigF-Dam                          2 Sep  19:47     5 Sep  09:28
Troj/Apdoor-A (Backdoor.Coreflood.B)    5 Sep  23:06    10 Sep  10:05
Troj/BDSinit-A (Trojan.Fakesvc.C)      24 Oct  19:29    10 Nov  16:52
W32/Holar-I (W32.Galil.C)              26 Oct  14:42    29 Oct  12:13
W32/Sober-A                            26 Oct  18:08    27 Oct  05:49
W32/Sober-Enc                          29 Oct  00:42    30 Oct  11:48
W32/Mimail-C (Worm.Bics)               31 Oct  12:36    31 Oct  13:20
JS/Flea-B (JS.Fortnight.Enc)           13 Nov  00:10    20 Nov  16:29


Please note that I'm not saying that Sophos' software is worse than
ClamAV. I'm just giving a few facts. Sometimes one is quicker, sometimes
the other.

Regards
-- 
 Tomasz Papszun   SysAdm @ TP S.A. Lodz, Poland  | And it's only
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.lodz.tpsa.pl/   | ones and zeros.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.ClamAV.net/   A GPL virus scanner

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