Excellent info mate! Really appreciate it. So, the AS9001 (the non "S") version, all 4 onboard 10G ports are "active", can do 120Gb(Without any additional licenses), supports MPLS, VPLS, L3VPNs, QOS(Shaping) + Netflow(that works :) ) without any additional licenses? (As I see licenses for VRF + L3VPN - Are these required for "vanilla" VRF support? Or are they for something additional?)
You do need to purchase 2 x power supplies (I assume) And if I want to throw a 4x10Gb line card or 20x1G line card - There's not additional licensing required to activate those cards/slots? but nothing else? > Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 00:23:35 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10Gb+ "Core" w/ Netflow > > On 3/13/2015 11:14 PM, CiscoNSP List wrote: > >> if you want cisco kit and need more than 5x 1G ports, then you should take > >> a look at the asr9001 platform with 20x1G cards. The cost per port is much > >> lower than trying to scale up asr1k boxes. > > > > Interesting - Thanks very much Nick. > > > > They do look very nice, and scale looks like exactly what we need....I know > > there are always "extra" costs with these, and having zero experience on > > the 9000 range, is it > > > > ASR-9001 > > > > > > A9K-750W-AC x 2 (As I > > assume they don’t come with power supplies standard?) > > > > > > 20 > > x 1 GE Modular Port Adapter > > > > > > 4 x 10 GE Modular Port Adapter (If we wanted more 10Gb) > > Licenses? i.e. Are they similar to ME's where you need to purchase > > licenses to unlock MPLS, 10G ports etc? > > Anything else you need? > > > > From my relatively limited experience with them as a couple of Internet > edge routers taking a couple of full feeds (in production for about a > year and a half now)... > > They're solid. We've had no unplanned downtime on ours (moving > datacenters and software upgrades are the only downtime so far) We're > running XR 5.2.2 on them, waiting for at least 5.3.1 to upgrade to the > next level. From a pricing perspective, we needed at least 3 10G ports > and a couple of 1G ports, and the ASR9001s were considerably less > expensive than getting an ASR1004 with RP2 and 3 10G cards. And you get > the benefits of IOS-XR like sane BGP filtering and scalability that goes > way beyond what we were ever able to get from our ASR1000s they > replaced. Boot time is long, plan on 10-15 minutes on a reboot, but BGP > convergence is quick. Bouncing a full feed took 2-3 minutes for the > first peer, and less than a minute for the second one. > > The biggest thing to be careful of with licensing is the difference > between the ASR9001 and the ASR9001S. The ASR9001S only has 2 of the 4 > on-board ports enabled, and can only do 60Gbps instead of 120Gbps. For > the other licenses that are available, see Table 4: > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr9000/software/asr9k_r5-3/general/release/notes/reln_530a9k.html#reference_62DD9EA197C548DA9C702E711DC18534 > > The only licenses that show up in CCW for these besides the small > handful in the table are the BNG, Lawful Intercept, and nV licenses. > > You can upgrade from a 9001S to a normal 9001, but it's more cost > effective to buy it with the higher performance if you are going to need > it (we needed 3 10G ports day 1, so it didn't make sense to upgrade from > the S model). The on-board ports are SFP+, the add-in 10G cards are > XFP. If you have other ASR9Ks or GSRs, those optics might be reusable > in the add-in cards. If you're mainly dealing with enterprise optics, > the XFP ones aren't common (except on the 10G card for the ASR1K which > is a carryover from the GSRs). The support on the ASR9Ks is a bit more > limited than on the ASR1Ks and other enterprise class boxes. The SFP+ > ports support SR, LR, ER, and ZR as well as the BX40D-I BiDi one. They > do NOT support LRMs. Both the on-board and add-in cards support > CWDM/DWDM optics. > > The one pain point I still have with them is software upgrades. If > you're used to downloading an image from CCO, copying it to the router, > changing a boot statement and typing reload, the XR way of doing things > will be a MAJOR education. To start, you download a tar file which > contains all the different packages available for all 9Ks. So there's > files in there for nVs, ASR903s, etc that you don't need. The bundle is > about 1.5GB. Once you strip out what you don't need in there (which > requires a couple readthroughs of the release notes to see which .pie's > include various features), you make a smaller copy of that tar file to > download to the router. Once you copy it, then you have to install and > activate it. Then once you reboot into the new version you commit it, > then you can remove the old one. The other major change from IOS is > SMUs. Think of these like hotfixes for routers, they're a fix for a > specific bug which doesn't require a full software update to fix. They > will be marked as hitless (no impact), traffic loss (will impact traffic > but not require a reload), and reboot required. > > I'd be curious if anybody has used the CSM (Cisco Software Manager, boo > to Cisco having two products with the same acronym for two different > products) to push upgrades to 9Ks. I've used it to grab the list of > SMUs, but never gotten it to actually push the changes, but haven't > tracked down if that's a firewall between me and the routers that is > blocking it. > > Overall, I've been pleased with the ASR9001s, they've been a very solid > box that hasn't required us to do much with them other than let them sit > and quietly move a lot of traffic for us. If you have any specific > questions about them, post to the list, these kinds of discussions are > helpful to everybody. > > Jeremy "TheBrez" Bresley > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
