>> Our side is also not standing still - the vendors have been plugging 
>> DWDM ports into routers for a while now. The model hasn't been 
>> successful (you can see how IPoDWDM was a total disaster),
>
>Care to go into more detail here?
>
>If we're talking about the same thing, I think it's a great idea, and the
>only problem is that vendors charging extra for using it (and thus, 
>many people are not using it even if their hardware could)... 

What do you folks mean by IPoDWDM? 
I always think of G.709 (OUT; ODU type of framing). 

I don't really think of it as OTN or GMPLS aka multiprotocol lambda
switching where PEs or PCEs provisions the optical switches/ optical path
end to end. 

adam

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