On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:53 AM, Beck, Andre wrote: > Hi, > > (as that's a long time since last post to this thread, I'll reply to > the list only and clear up CCs, hope that's Ok). > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 01:09:58AM -0800, Mack McBride wrote: >> >> Final answer on how long 1M routes will work for is variable. >> At least 18 months, possibly as long as 3 or 4 years. Beyond that >> and there is going to be table pruning if growth continues. > > We've prodded Cisco via several routes about that problem, as I couldn't > believe the ASR1002-X would really max out at 1M FIB despite all the > similarities to the ESP40+RP2 combo. Turns out there was a Cisco internal > "Unidimensional Scaling Sheet" with way better numbers for the case of > equipping the box with 16GB RAM.
I think I posted that here as well, but I never found out if it was OK to officially quote the numbers as the document I saw had "CONFIDENTIAL" all over it. > I made clear how the current published > numbers are a deterrent to ISPs in a certain size range shopping for NPE-G2 > replacements, and the numbers just came public in the data sheet: > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps9343/data_sheet_c78-450070.html > > From Table 8: > > 500,000 IPv4 or 500,000 IPv6 routes with 4GB Memory > 1,000,000 IPv4 or 1,000,000 IPv6 routes with 8GB Memory > 3,500,000 IPv4 or 3,000,000 IPv6 routes with 16GB Memory I saw that, but note that if you look at the RP2 datasheet, they still maintain the limit is 1M: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps9343/data_sheet_c78-441072.html Performance • 1,000,000 IPv4 or 1,000,000 IPv6 routes That's even more strange as the RP generally can carry more routes than the ESP - other datasheets claim that it can do at least 4M routes or more when acting as a route reflector. > That should finally clear up this issue and makes the 1002-X an excellent > replacement for NPE-G2 I think, with a sufficient DFZ lifetime expectancy. > Already collecting BOMs here ;) Based on some quotes, it's something of a bargain as well. If you step up to the ASR-1004 with an RP2 and an ESP that can do 4M routes, the cost is about double. Perhaps that's one reason for this inaccuracy. :) Also finally heard back from Juniper, and they are claiming a 4M RIB and 1M FIB in the MX-80 series, so I suppose that puts them out of the running. They offered that an MX240/480/960 scales "much higher", but didn't even hint at a list price. I suspect it's well out of our price range (and out of anyone's price range looking to replace a G2 or augment some 6500 gear that can't scale beyond 1M routes in the FIB). Glad to hear someone else confirming the 1002-X numbers though… Charles > HTH, > Andre. > -- > Cool .signatures are so 90s... > > -> Andre Beck +++ ABP-RIPE +++ IBH IT-Service GmbH, Dresden <- > _______________________________________________ > cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
