Monty, Thanks for clarifying. I sent an email from my subscription email address ( desi...@anim8.com) to the list but I did not see it post so perhaps it was considered too -off topic- or I was not important enough to Cinelerra to warrant a reply or perhaps was considered threatening. I'm just trying to find out the 'real' story about what is going on before I invest another second in Cinelerra. If my email server somehow failed to send the email, I'm re-sending it below! If I am out of order for asking, please ignore and I will not bother you again.
For the record, although from California, I don't know Michael Collins, and unless there is something extraordinary to explain his alleged posts, I don't ever want to know him or be associated with any of his projects - so if CV becomes his project, I'm not interested in someone with that temperament. Thanks in advance! Peace. Dell. Fairfield, CA (SF Bay area) Hi everyone, You probably don't know me, but I'm a long time subscriber but only used Cinelerra briefly a few years ago (see below as to questions and reasons I remained on the list) but stayed mainly lurker mode until the recent "End of Support" subject line caught my eye. Then came the Nazi stuff which is obviously bad netiquette at a minimum. I speak plainly myself, but never that ridiculous I hope. That said, I am sympathetic to Cinelerra (esp. CV) and have what may seem like stupid questions that might illuminate what other semi-outsiders might be wondering right now. First a little background: I have spent thousands of dollars over the years on 3d and video editing equipment but could not justify it from a business point view. Made some money but was not my full time job. I was at the same time looking to go to open source OS but could not find equivalent software. I wanted to escape the yearly $800 upgrade treadmill. Blender is good. Video editors at the time, not so great. I looked into Cinelerra and found it surprisingly powerful, but a bit 'crashy' and at the time at least, a somewhat non-intuitive interface and would require some rethinking (not that much perhaps) for me. Additionally, although I was learning to program as quickly as I could, I certainly had (and have) never compiled a major application like this from source. I realized I had a lot to learn if I wanted to go open source. I researched the background at the time and had some reservations about the Cinelerra-Heroine connection and those questions remained. I decided to wait-and-see how this relationship between the two versions of Cinelerra turned out. So here's my suggestion: Could someone with some deeper knowledge of the various Cinelerra aspects give some of us 'newbies' a snapshot view from 20,000 feet of what the h*@#$ is going on? Here are some huge questions: 1) What is the relationship between Cinelerra HV and CV and why is it not a fork if it is not? My understanding is that the HV is basically a nearly closed commercial version whereas the CV is more open. 2) Who is Michael Collins and why is he important here? Is he the developer of HV? If so, this validates my intuition about the HV when I first investigated it. Something just did not seem right. 3) Is there any reason that CV is still forced to depend on HV? What benefits do we get that we could not get by being fully independent? 4) What should those of us do who are not developers (yet?) to keep in touch? I read of some lists getting pruned etc. Linux does need a good open source video editor. I was impressed with Cinelerra's capabilities years ago, but have not invested the time needed. Perhaps there are others like me. I can't do much right now but I would like to be part of whatever turns out to be the Good Force in this little tempest in a teacup. Thanks in advance, Dell Anderson, Fairfield, CA PS I am native English speaker so might be able to proof final versions for grammatical or spelling errors, but although I am taking a Java OOP class in French, I am not good enough to be confident of correct meaning. Google translate is not infallible I have found. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Monty Montgomery <xiphm...@gmail.com>wrote: > When I said 'I didn't mind' it was more 'doesn't really affect me'. > > I haven't seen Michael do anything yet aside from grab the domain and > send mail. If he turns out to pour time and energy into Cinelerra, > then we can decide if it's good for the project or not. Or maybe > that's the last we're going to hear from him. In which case, the > proper reaction is probably an Adam-like 'meh'. > > My take is send mail, say hello, and go about our business for now. > > Monty > _______________________________________________ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra >
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