> Op 28-12-11 01:58, Ichthyostega schreef: >> The most shocking absence of people able and willing (or willing and able) >> to work towards any even quite simplistic goal for more than just a single >> afternoon.
>> We've seen lots and lots and lots of excited people, and heard and >> collected lots and lots and lots of good proposals. But seemingly >> 99.9999999% of them seem to flounder at the first tiny little bumps on the >> road... Am 30.12.2011 19:42, schrieb Stefan de Konink: > Is the above really what you observe in 'daily life', because as I told you > before, I would love to work on stuff, but without any serious 'we are ready > to get people in to do real work and end with something that they can > actually use', I feel quite stock. Geesh! Everyone wants focus, pragmatism and real stuff and so on. No one wants just to toy around. Its always "the others" toying around.. Good intentions aren't the problem > For example: I'm now for weeks thinking about coding a simple > videosynchronisation program, because none of the programs I work with to do > my video editing is able to give me the ability to do frame synchronisation > in a way that is easy. Indeed it is only an afternoon work... Nice example. I don't hesitate to believe you that you'll be able to code up something in an afternoon. That's what we call a "prototype" Then you'll experiment a bit with it and find yourself several days long nailing bugs or fighting against some buggy driver or library. Then you'll publish it and other people pick up excited first, just to come come back later to complain it doesn't work for them at all. So you sit there several further days and work out the problems highlighted by other people. Then next the long-time core devs will attack you, complaining that you did "your own thing" instead of working in a team. Their complaint is valid: They point out that the base application has other conventions of doing stuff, that you missed this and that intricate point, and that your new key bindings collide with a really important feature for some professional users (which you don't even understand without reading some hours worth of material). No offence taken. Welcome to the reality. (What I've written here is not my inception. You can read it more or less the same way in "The Mythical Man Month" from 1971. At that time they were programming mainframes. It seems there was no real advance on the fundamental problems of our craft since then.) As a developer engaged into a larger project, for one you're constantly in lack of helpers, additionally you spend a lot of time training new helpers just for seeing them "disappear" and leaving yet another started-but-never-finished not so stellar piece of code, and on top of all, you regularily get accused of "toying around", living in an "ivory tower", being "unable to focus" and of being "not welcoming". Yet still, there is also a lot of fun in actually getting things done, maybe the hard way, and probably that's what keeps us going. Cheers, Hermann V _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list [email protected] https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
