Scott wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 14:17 +0200, Christian Thaeter wrote:
> > I never felt comfortable with the public logging. IRC is meant to be a
> > volatile place where humans meet and talk, this is also a social part of
> > the community, you wouldn't like either if your pub-talks are logged,

Maybe some irc, but this is a freenode channel associated with a
development project, not a pub.

> > even if you meet with programmer buddies at the pub! IMO there is no
> > much benefit of (public) logging an irc channel its rather even
> > contraproductive for serveral reasons:
> > * Things will be on google for eternity, one has to fear that things he
> > saied could be misinterpreted out of context.

Haha, I suspect you and I will never agree on this, but...
  * Google doesn't store 'things'
  * This is a good time to learn to apologize if you act like an idiot
at some point.  We are all human, after all.  Having the full content of
any such discussions allows all to review any questionable discussion. 
People can judge for themselves what was said, rather then having to
rely on someones private logs.
  * I find it humorous that some people think there is privacy online. 
I humbly suggest you will find your online experience much easier if you
assume anything you do online (irc, email, web site) in cleartext is
public.


> > * The signal to noise ratio is very high, you have to read pages of logs
> > to gather little usable information.
> > * in an chat are many errors, assumptions, half baked ideas, rumors.
> > * People who know that this is logged are less motivated to write
> > conclusions down to some formal/official document.
> >
> I am one of those odd people who actually read and occasionally glean
> some knowledge from the IRC logs, so please don't take away IRC logging.
> scott

Several people like the idea of logging.  Until those against it vote
more strongly, I think it should stay also.

In larger channels I am involved with, you can assume that several
regulars log the channel all the time.  I personally see the #cinelerra
logger as a way to simplify everyones life who might like a log, but not
be able to/or want to run a client full time.

-- 
Kevin

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