Terje,
I remember you asking about HDV documentation last week.  I had posted this 
list of HDV resources a while back, but maybe you'd find these links 
interesting, if not helpful:

General 
http://www.hdvinfo.net/ 

HDV resources from the above site: 
http://hdvinfo.com/resources/index.php 

Understanding HD formats (micro$oft..sssssh!!) 
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/howto/articles/UnderstandingHDFormats.aspx
 

This article was a very good intro, but now its 404: 
http://www.gyhduser.com/article.php?filename=What-is-HDV- 

Good article about data rates and GOP info: 
Shoot Review - JVC JY-HD10 (Aug 1, 2003) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/cameras/revfeat/video_jvc_jyhd/index.html 

How To Edit HDV (Sep 1, 2003) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/depth/video_edit_hdv/index.html 

HDV Sweet Spot (Sep 1, 2004) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/videoencodvd/revfeat/video_hdv_sweet_spot/index.html
 

HDV in the Real World (July 1, 2005) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/depth/video_hdv_real_world/index.html 

A few other HDV articles 

HDV in India (Mar 1, 2004) (more tech info at bottom of article) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/depth/video_hdv_india/index.html 

HD to DVD (Apr 1, 2005) 
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/depth/video_hd_dvd/index.html 

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/article_rev.jsp?model_id=MDL101394&feature_id=09
 

scott

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 Dan Streetman wrote:
> 
> 
> > Ick, it's the 4:2:0 chroma sampling, I believe.  Why oh why doesn't
> > HDV use 4:1:1 or 4:2:2?  
> >   
> 
> Without being any expert on this, my understanding is that
> 
> 4:1:1
> color sampling as used in NTSC DV25, is considered to be a bad format to
> transcode to MPEG-2 for DVD video disks, which do use 4:2:0. This
> misalignment of color samples results in a final 4:1:0 color space or
> only 12,5 percent of the original chroma information (this problem
> doesn't exist in PAL DV25 which itself also applies 4:2:0 color
> sampling) according to:
> http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/#dv25
> 
> 4:2:0
> sampling format and 8 bit quantization used for HDV in general, does for
> HDV 1080i or MPEG-2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] occopy the maximum 25 Mbit/s bitrate to 
> be
> recorded on miniDV tapes .....
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV#Specifications
> http://www.expandore.com/product/Sony/Proav/model/HDV/QNA.htm#HDV%20Specificatio
> ns
> 
> 4:2:2
> as used in MPEG-2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is "bitrated" at 80 Mbit/s ans is (was)
> examplified for "potential future MPEG-2 based HD products from Sony and
> Panasonic".
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2#Profiles_and_Levels
> 
> 
> And at the same time two questions I myself have been wondering about
> looking in the last table:
> 
> Q1)
> Maybe someone here can explain what makes the difference between HDV
> 1080i at 25 Mbit/s and its MPEG-2 profile [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is tabeled 
> to
> use 60 Mbit/s below
> 
> Q2)
> And at the same time as I myself have been searching for a better
> Analog->Digital video converter than just DV25/1394 with the limited
> bitrate and color space 4.1:1:
> Shouldn't a converter using the MPEG-2 profile [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 
> 720x576(480)
> resolution, 4:2:2 color space and bitrate >= 25 Mbit/s over 1394 have
> the potential for a better result than DV25?
> 
> 
> Terje J. Hanssen
> 
> 
> 
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