kimgr added a comment.

In https://reviews.llvm.org/D43578#1067974, @rsmith wrote:

> In https://reviews.llvm.org/D43578#1067891, @kimgr wrote:
>
> > I disagreed up until the last paragraph :)
>
>
> Can you say which things you disagree with? There seem to be two important 
> facts here:
>
> 1. LLVM's timing infrastructure cannot correctly report timings when one 
> function containing a timing region calls another. That will happen all the 
> time with this patch applied.
> 2. Clang's architecture means that if you time the amount of time spent in, 
> say, the "ParseTemplate" function, you have not computed the amount of time 
> spent parsing templates, because the parser calls into Sema, which might 
> perform tasks that are only somewhat related to parsing the template (such as 
> performing other instantiations), and likewise Sema calls into other layers 
> (such as AST file deserialization and code generation).
>
>   The first might have been fixed in LLVM at this point, but I can't see any 
> evidence of that in LLVM's Timer implementation. And the second seems even 
> more fundamental. But if there's some way around that, which would allow us 
> to produce (correct!) numbers for times spent parsing / whatever else, 
> without, for instance, adding a correctness requirement that we annotate 
> every Parser -> Sema entry point with a timer, then that's definitely 
> something we should discuss.


Ah, I see. I read your original message as dismissive as in users don't need to 
know where time is spent.

I tried to make the case that users do care where time is spent, because it can 
give a hint as to what part of their physical/logical design they can work on 
to get better compile times.

But I think you were really saying that LLVM and Clang as designed can't 
provide anything perfect, only slightly misleading information?

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

- Kim


https://reviews.llvm.org/D43578



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