rjmccall added inline comments.

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Comment at: clang/test/CodeGen/X86/Float16-arithmetic.c:207
+// CHECK-NEXT:    [[EXT:%.*]] = fpext half [[TMP0]] to float
+// CHECK-NEXT:    store float [[EXT]], ptr [[RETVAL]], align 2
+// CHECK-NEXT:    [[TMP1:%.*]] = load half, ptr [[RETVAL]], align 2
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pengfei wrote:
> rjmccall wrote:
> > zahiraam wrote:
> > > zahiraam wrote:
> > > > pengfei wrote:
> > > > > Not sure if we need a fptrunc and store the half value. The following 
> > > > > tests have the same problem.
> > > > I think that's what we want?
> > > > // CHECK-LABEL: @RealOp(
> > > > // CHECK-NEXT:  entry:
> > > > // CHECK-NEXT:    [[A_ADDR:%.*]] = alloca half, align 2
> > > > // CHECK-NEXT:    store half [[A:%.*]], ptr [[A_ADDR]], align 2
> > > > // CHECK-NEXT:    [[TMP0:%.*]] = load half, ptr [[A_ADDR]], align 2
> > > > // CHECK-NEXT:    [[EXT:%.*]] = fpext half [[TMP0]] to float
> > > > // CHECK-NEXT:    [[UNPROMOTION:%.*]] = fptrunc float [[EXT]] to half
> > > > // CHECK-NEXT:    ret half [[UNPROMOTION]]
> > > > 
> > > > Do you agree? If this is correct, I will make the change the other 
> > > > operators.
> > > But I feel like we should be returning a float no?  In which case it will 
> > > be more tricky (need to calculate the Address with the promoted 
> > > elementype)? @rmjccall?
> > The function is declared as returning `_Float16`, not `float`.  This is 
> > therefore a question about when we're allowed to return a value in greater 
> > precision than the declared return type, which raises three sub-questions: 
> > one about ABI, one about language semantics, and one about our handling in 
> > the implementation.
> > 
> > The first is about ABI.  This mode is not supposed to be ABI-breaking, so 
> > whenever the ABI is in doubt, and the target makes a `_Float16` return 
> > incompatible with the ABI of a `float` return, we must use the former.  
> > That means, at the very least, returning from a function with unknown call 
> > sites or calling a function with an unknown implementation.  We could 
> > potentially eliminate extra truncations here when we fully understand a 
> > call; for example, we could change the return type to `float` when the 
> > function is internal to a TU and not address-taken, or we could eliminate a 
> > trunc+extend pair after inlining.  It is fair to ask whether that's a good 
> > idea, however.
> > 
> > Anyway, concretely we're talking about two ABIs here:
> > - On x86_64, `_Float16` and `float` are not returned compatibly: they're 
> > both returned in `xmm0`, but the bit patterns are different, and the caller 
> > and callee must agree in order to preserve the value.
> > - On i386, `_Float16` and `float` *are* returned compatibly: they're both 
> > returned in `%st0`, promoted to the 80-bit format.
> > 
> > Let's assume for a second that we're interested in avoiding truncations in 
> > situations where the ABI doesn't limit us.  Then we have a question of 
> > language semantics, which is principally about this: does C's authorization 
> > of excess precision in intermediate results allows return values to 
> > propagate the excess precision?  The answer that appears to be yes, it 
> > does, per the explicit footnote at the end of the standard's description of 
> > the `return` statement:
> > 
> > > The return statement is not an assignment. The overlap restriction of 
> > > 6.5.16.1 does not apply to the case of function return. The 
> > > representation of floating-point values can have wider range or precision 
> > > than implied by the type; a cast can be used to remove this extra range 
> > > and precision.
> > 
> > Okay.  So the third question is about implementation: how should we take 
> > advantage of this flexibility, assuming we actually want to?  A major part 
> > of the reason we're doing explicit promoted emission in the frontend in 
> > this patch is that only the frontend has the required knowledge of when to 
> > force truncation; and a big part of *that* is that explicit casts and 
> > assignments both force truncation, and neither has a persistent semantic 
> > representation in LLVM IR.  We cannot distinguish between a truncation that 
> > was only done to satisfy the ABI and a truncation that was required by the 
> > language semantics.  Once we have a value as an `fp16` in IR, it's entirely 
> > possible that it underwent an operation that required excess precision to 
> > be discarded, one which no longer has any representation in IR.  I think 
> > the only reasonable way to avoid this would be to allow functions to 
> > directly return `float` (and receive `float`s as returns) with some sort of 
> > annotation that it actually has to be returned as an `fp16` to satisfy the 
> > ABI.  And within Clang, we would handle that by making the call/return 
> > emission interact with the promoted emitters we're adding in this patch.
> > 
> > We can put off all of that until later, though.  For now, we should just 
> > continue to return `_Float16`.
> > Do you agree? If this is correct, I will make the change the other 
> > operators.
> 
> I think it is correct, though it is a bit silly to do fpext + fptrunc for a 
> simple move.
> 
> > On i386, `_Float16` and `float` *are* returned compatibly
> 
> They are not. According to i386 [[ 
> https://gitlab.com/x86-psABIs/i386-ABI/-/wikis/Intel386-psABI | psABI ]] both 
> `_Float16` and `_Complex _Float16` are passed/returned from XMM0, while 
> `float`/`double` etc. are passed/returned from ST0.
> 
> Other target may have similar problem, e.g., passing/returning `float` from 
> FPR but `_Float16` from GPR.
> 
> IIUC, the current way, i.e., always promote + unpromote each expression, is 
> just for easy implementation. I expected we can distinguish unary and binary 
> operations from multi operations. Only multi operations needs promote + 
> unpromote.
> They are not. According to i386 psABI both _Float16 and _Complex _Float16 are 
> passed/returned from XMM0, while float/double etc. are passed/returned from 
> ST0.

Ah, I see that now in the register-use table.  On the other hand, the section 
on returning values says "[f]unctions that return scalar floating-point values 
in registers return them on the top of the x87 register stack, that is, %st0" 
without making exceptions.  The table should presumably take precedence, but 
still, someone really needs to update that document properly.

Anyway.  So that puts i386 on the same level as x86_64 in terms of having ABI 
constraints which do not allow these functions to simply return a `float` 
without an ABI break, and thus cannot avoid truncations for return values 
without IPO.

> Other target may have similar problem, e.g., passing/returning float from FPR 
> but _Float16 from GPR.

Right, an ABI mismatch should be the default assumption for all targets.  The 
i386 thing where some types are promoted for returns is a terrible legacy that 
everybody else is well warned off of, and as you point out, even there we don't 
have to worry about it for `_Float16`.


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