mboehme added a comment.

In D128439#3607350 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D128439#3607350>, @nikic wrote:

> In D128439#3607289 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D128439#3607289>, @mboehme wrote:
>
>> Just a question for my understanding before I abandon the change: Shouldn't 
>> the "instructions" count be relatively resistant to noise? (I was assuming 
>> this is based on performance counters? What would cause noise in this 
>> metric?)
>
> There are two primary sources of noise. The first is kernel activity, as the 
> `instructions` metric is a combined userspace and kernel metric. I do collect 
> userspace-only as well (this is `instructions:u`).

Ah -- that makes sense.

> On that metric this does look like a small improvement just above the noise 
> floor: 
> http://llvm-compile-time-tracker.com/compare.php?from=8b6f69a4da5baaf3748798a84dd16a2481b7ca7f&to=797ba50f5fd88017925fe765427b1f5f136c3310&stat=instructions:u

So based on that, would you recommend that I un-abandon this revision after all 
and submit it for review?

> The other is ASLR. If ASLR is disabled, the `instructions:u` measurements 
> become perfectly noise-free. This is actually bad, because a lot of changes 
> will then show statistically significant and perfectly reproducible 
> compile-time changes that are ultimately just down to how exactly the address 
> space gets laid out. So this is intentional noise :)
>
> And yes, execution statistics are collected using `perf`. `callgrind` uses a 
> CPU simulator instead, which is a much more controlled environment...

Thanks for the clarification. I learned a lot about performance measurement 
from this discussion!


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