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In D69764#2932929 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D69764#2932929>, @steveire wrote:

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@steveire, thanks for your comments, I also agree that a second tool shouldn't 
be needed, especially as this functionality is off by default (and needs to 
stay that way). This was my suggestion for a compromise.

Its a tough call, but ultimately no on ever gave this a LGTM so I couldn't 
proceed anyway. Whilst I think we can cover the other qualifiers with a similar 
approach I don't want to waste more of my time until the fundamental question 
has been answered if its ok for clang-format to insert/modify the order of 
tokens and that is more a collective decision.

It was suggested to me that I write up and RFC on the matter, I'm not a massive 
fan of those as I don't really see a formal process for handling them (the 
conversation seems to turn into a series of personal preferences then dwindles 
and dies without conclusion). But if people think it would solve something I 
guess I could try.

From my perspective I'm more interested in the views of the major clang-format 
contributors (@curdeius, @krasimir, @owenpan , @sammccall, @HazardyKnusperkeks  
and people like yourselves who have put time and effort into blogging about 
these tools), ultimately it will be us who have to handle the impact of this 
(and maybe the #clangd people) and I don't want to inconvenience them or make 
work for them.

So here is what is needed to land this in my view:

1. I'd want at least 2 to 3 of the current reviewers to LGTM.
2. I'd want 1 person (like yourself) a community contributor to also give their 
approval (I guess I have that conceptually from you!)

or

1. @klimek or @djasper to give us an its ok for "clang-format to insert/modify 
the order of tokens" in a controlled manner decision
2. 1 LGTM

Whilst I respect the views of those few who have objected, they don't to my 
knowledge make significant contributions to clang-format (not in the last 5-6 
years I've been following it anyway)

I feel this team owns the decision as we are the ones that look after it, warts 
and all. We'll always have a situation where some don't agree, thats ok, but I 
feel there is more agreement that this funcationality is ok rather than not.

Until one of those 2 things happens, we are in limbo.


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