Hi Frank,

Thanks for sharing valuable experience.

Frank Schilder <fr...@dtu.dk> 于2019年7月8日周一 下午4:36写道:

> Hi David,
>
> I'm running a cluster with bluestore on raw devices (no lvm) and all
> journals collocated on the same disk with the data. Disks are spinning
> NL-SAS. Our goal was to build storage at lowest cost, therefore all data on
> HDD only. I got a few SSDs that I'm using for FS and RBD meta data. All
> large pools are EC on spinning disk.
>
> I spent at least one month to run detailed benchmarks (rbd bench)
> depending on EC profile, object size, write size, etc. Results were varying
> a lot. My advice would be to run benchmarks with your hardware. If there
> was a single perfect choice, there wouldn't be so many options. For
> example, my tests will not be valid when using separate fast disks for WAL
> and DB.
>
> There are some results though that might be valid in general:
>
> 1) EC pools have high throughput but low IOP/s compared with replicated
> pools
>
> I see single-thread write speeds of up to 1.2GB (gigabyte) per second,
> which is probably the network limit and not the disk limit. IOP/s get
> better with more disks, but are way lower than what replicated pools can
> provide. On a cephfs with EC data pool, small-file IO will be comparably
> slow and eat a lot of resources.
>
> 2) I observe massive network traffic amplification on small IO sizes,
> which is due to the way EC overwrites are handled. This is one bottleneck
> for IOP/s. We have 10G infrastructure and use 2x10G client and 4x10G OSD
> network. OSD bandwidth at least 2x client network, better 4x or more.
>
> 3) k should only have small prime factors, power of 2 if possible
>
> I tested k=5,6,8,10,12. Best results in decreasing order: k=8, k=6. All
> other choices were poor. The value of m seems not relevant for performance.
> Larger k will require more failure domains (more hardware).
>
> 4) object size matters
>
> The best throughput (1M write size) I see with object sizes of 4MB or 8MB,
> with IOP/s getting somewhat better with slower object sizes but throughput
> dropping fast. I use the default of 4MB in production. Works well for us.
>
> 5) jerasure is quite good and seems most flexible
>
> jerasure is quite CPU efficient and can handle smaller chunk sizes than
> other plugins, which is preferrable for IOP/s. However, CPU usage can
> become a problem and a plugin optimized for specific values of k and m
> might help here. Under usual circumstances I see very low load on all OSD
> hosts, even under rebalancing. However, I remember that once I needed to
> rebuild something on all OSDs (I don't remember what it was, sorry). In
> this situation, CPU load went up to 30-50% (meaning up to half the cores
> were at 100%), which is really high considering that each server has only
> 16 disks at the moment and is sized to handle up to 100. CPU power could
> become a bottle for us neck in the future.
>
> These are some general observations and do not replace benchmarks for
> specific use cases. I was hunting for a specific performance pattern, which
> might not be what you want to optimize for. I would recommend to run
> extensive benchmarks if you have to live with a configuration for a long
> time - EC profiles cannot be changed.
>
> We settled on 8+2 and 6+2 pools with jerasure and object size 4M. We also
> use bluestore compression. All meta data pools are on SSD, only very little
> SSD space is required. This choice works well for the majority of our use
> cases. We can still build small expensive pools to accommodate special
> performance requests.
>
> Best regards,
>
> =================
> Frank Schilder
> AIT Risø Campus
> Bygning 109, rum S14
>
> ________________________________________
> From: ceph-users <ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com> on behalf of David <
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> Sent: 07 July 2019 20:01:18
> To: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> Subject: [ceph-users]  What's the best practice for Erasure Coding
>
> Hi Ceph-Users,
>
> I'm working with a  Ceph cluster (about 50TB, 28 OSDs, all Bluestore on
> lvm).
> Recently, I'm trying to use the Erasure Code pool.
> My question is "what's the best practice for using EC pools ?".
> More specifically, which plugin (jerasure, isa, lrc, shec or  clay) should
> I adopt, and how to choose the combinations of (k,m) (e.g. (k=3,m=2),
> (k=6,m=3) ).
>
> Does anyone share some experience?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
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