But with enough memory on MDS, I can just cache all metadata into memory.
Right now there are around 500GB metadata in the ssd. So this is not enough?

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 5:48 PM Yan, Zheng <uker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:49 AM Albert Yue <transuranium....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Yan Zheng,
> >
> > In your opinion, can we resolve this issue by move MDS to a 512GB or 1TB
> memory machine?
> >
>
> The problem is from client side, especially clients with large memory.
> I don't think enlarge mds cache size is good idea. you can
> periodically check periodically
> each kernel clients' /sys/kernel/debug/ceph/xxx/caps. run 'echo 2
> >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' if a client used too many caps (for example
> 10k),
>
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 10:49 PM Yan, Zheng <uker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 11:16 AM Albert Yue <transuranium....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dear Ceph Users,
> >> >
> >> > We have set up a cephFS cluster with 6 osd machines, each with 16 8TB
> harddisk. Ceph version is luminous 12.2.5. We created one data pool with
> these hard disks and created another meta data pool with 3 ssd. We created
> a MDS with 65GB cache size.
> >> >
> >> > But our users are keep complaining that cephFS is too slow. What we
> observed is cephFS is fast when we switch to a new MDS instance, once the
> cache fills up (which will happen very fast), client became very slow when
> performing some basic filesystem operation such as `ls`.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It seems that clients hold lots of unused inodes their icache, which
> >> prevent mds from trimming corresponding objects from its cache.  mimic
> >> has command "ceph daemon mds.x cache drop" to ask client to drop its
> >> cache. I'm also working on a patch that make kclient client release
> >> unused inodes.
> >>
> >> For luminous,  there is not much we can do, except periodically run
> >> "echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches"  on each client.
> >>
> >>
> >> > What we know is our user are putting lots of small files into the
> cephFS, now there are around 560 Million files. We didn't see high CPU wait
> on MDS instance and meta data pool just used around 200MB space.
> >> >
> >> > My question is, what is the relationship between the metadata pool
> and MDS? Is this performance issue caused by the hardware behind meta data
> pool? Why the meta data pool only used 200MB space, and we saw 3k iops on
> each of these three ssds, why can't MDS cache all these 200MB into memory?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks very much!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Albert
> >> >
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