Also you was asking the RAW output.
I've been trying to fix it for days and I didn't sleep. Forgive the dumb 
mistakes.

RAW dump output: 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SzFNNjSK9Q_j4iyYJTRqOYuLWJcsFX9C/view?usp=sharing

Göktuğ Yıldırım <goktug.yildi...@gmail.com> şunları yazdı (3 Eki 2018 21:34):

> I'm so sorry about that I missed "out" parameter. My bad..
> This is the output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KwT9c8F6TF/
> 
> 
> Sage Weil <s...@newdream.net> şunları yazdı (3 Eki 2018 21:13):
> 
>> I bet the kvstore output it in a hexdump format?  There is another option to 
>> get the raw data iirc
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On October 3, 2018 3:01:41 PM EDT, Goktug YILDIRIM 
>>> <goktug.yildi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I changed the file name to make it clear.
>>> When I use your command with "+decode"  I'm getting an error like this:
>>> 
>>> ceph-dencoder type creating_pgs_t import DUMPFILE decode dump_json
>>> error: buffer::malformed_input: void 
>>> creating_pgs_t::decode(ceph::buffer::list::iterator&) no longer understand 
>>> old encoding version 2 < 111
>>> 
>>> My ceph version: 13.2.2
>>> 
>>> 3 Eki 2018 Çar, saat 20:46 tarihinde Sage Weil <s...@newdream.net> şunu 
>>> yazdı:
>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Göktuğ Yıldırım wrote:
>>>> > If I didn't do it wrong, I got the output as below.
>>>> > 
>>>> > ceph-kvstore-tool rocksdb /var/lib/ceph/mon/ceph-SRV-SBKUARK14/store.db/ 
>>>> > get osd_pg_creating creating > dump
>>>> > 2018-10-03 20:08:52.070 7f07f5659b80  1 rocksdb: do_open column 
>>>> > families: [default]
>>>> > 
>>>> > ceph-dencoder type creating_pgs_t import dump dump_json
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, should be
>>>> 
>>>> ceph-dencoder type creating_pgs_t import dump decode dump_json
>>>> 
>>>> s
>>>> 
>>>> > {
>>>> >     "last_scan_epoch": 0,
>>>> >     "creating_pgs": [],
>>>> >     "queue": [],
>>>> >     "created_pools": []
>>>> > }
>>>> > 
>>>> > You can find the "dump" link below.
>>>> > 
>>>> > dump: 
>>>> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZLUiQyotQ4-778wM9UNWK_TLDAROg0yN/view?usp=sharing
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Sage Weil <s...@newdream.net> şunları yazdı (3 Eki 2018 18:45):
>>>> > 
>>>> > >> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Goktug Yildirim wrote:
>>>> > >> We are starting to work on it. First step is getting the structure 
>>>> > >> out and dumping the current value as you say.
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> And you were correct we did not run force_create_pg.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Great.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > So, eager to see what the current structure is... please attach once 
>>>> > > you 
>>>> > > have it.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > The new replacement one should look like this (when hexdump -C'd):
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 00000000  02 01 18 00 00 00 10 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00  
>>>> > > |................|
>>>> > > 00000010  00 00 42 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00        
>>>> > > |..B...........|
>>>> > > 0000001e
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > ...except that from byte 6 you want to put in a recent OSDMap epoch, 
>>>> > > in 
>>>> > > hex, little endian (least significant byte first), in place of the 
>>>> > > 0x10 
>>>> > > that is there now.  It should dump like this:
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > $ ceph-dencoder type creating_pgs_t import myfile decode dump_json
>>>> > > {
>>>> > >    "last_scan_epoch": 16,   <--- but with a recent epoch here
>>>> > >    "creating_pgs": [],
>>>> > >    "queue": [],
>>>> > >    "created_pools": [
>>>> > >        66
>>>> > >    ]
>>>> > > }
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > sage
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >>> On 3 Oct 2018, at 17:52, Sage Weil <s...@newdream.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Goktug Yildirim wrote:
>>>> > >>>> Sage,
>>>> > >>>> 
>>>> > >>>> Pool 66 is the only pool it shows right now. This a pool created 
>>>> > >>>> months ago.
>>>> > >>>> ceph osd lspools
>>>> > >>>> 66 mypool
>>>> > >>>> 
>>>> > >>>> As we recreated mon db from OSDs, the pools for MDS was unusable. 
>>>> > >>>> So we deleted them.
>>>> > >>>> After we create another cephfs fs and pools we started MDS and it 
>>>> > >>>> stucked on creation. So we stopped MDS and removed fs and fs pools. 
>>>> > >>>> Right now we do not have MDS running nor we have cephfs related 
>>>> > >>>> things.
>>>> > >>>> 
>>>> > >>>> ceph fs dump
>>>> > >>>> dumped fsmap epoch 1 e1
>>>> > >>>> enable_multiple, ever_enabled_multiple: 0,0
>>>> > >>>> compat: compat={},rocompat={},incompat={1=base v0.20,2=client 
>>>> > >>>> writeable ranges,3=default file layouts on dirs,4=dir inode in 
>>>> > >>>> separate object,5=mds uses versioned encoding,6=dirfrag is stored 
>>>> > >>>> in omap,8=no anchor table,9=file layout v2,10=snaprealm v2}
>>>> > >>>> legacy client fscid: -1
>>>> > >>>> 
>>>> > >>>> No filesystems configured
>>>> > >>>> 
>>>> > >>>> ceph fs ls
>>>> > >>>> No filesystems enabled
>>>> > >>>> 
>>>> > >>>> Now pool 66 seems to only pool we have and it has been created 
>>>> > >>>> months ago. Then I guess there is something hidden out there.
>>>> > >>>> 
>>>> > >>>> Is there any way to find and delete it?
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> Ok, I'm concerned that the creating pg is in there if this is an old 
>>>> > >>> pool... did you perhaps run force_create_pg at some point?  Assuming 
>>>> > >>> you 
>>>> > >>> didn't, I think this is a bug in the process for rebuilding the mon 
>>>> > >>> store.. one that doesn't normally come up because the impact is this 
>>>> > >>> osdmap scan that is cheap in our test scenarios but clearly not 
>>>> > >>> cheap for 
>>>> > >>> your aged cluster.
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> In any case, there is a way to clear those out of the mon, but it's 
>>>> > >>> a bit 
>>>> > >>> dicey. 
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> 1. stop all mons
>>>> > >>> 2. make a backup of all mons
>>>> > >>> 3. use ceph-kvstore-tool to extract the prefix=osd_pg_creating 
>>>> > >>> key=creating key on one of the mons
>>>> > >>> 4. dump the object with ceph-dencoder type creating_pgs_t import 
>>>> > >>> FILE dump_json
>>>> > >>> 5. hex edit the structure to remove all of the creating pgs, and 
>>>> > >>> adds pool 
>>>> > >>> 66 to the created_pgs member.
>>>> > >>> 6. verify with ceph-dencoder dump that the edit was correct...
>>>> > >>> 7. inject the updated structure into all of the mons
>>>> > >>> 8. start all mons
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> 4-6 will probably be an iterative process... let's start by getting 
>>>> > >>> the 
>>>> > >>> structure out and dumping the current value?  
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> The code to refer to to understand the structure is 
>>>> > >>> src/mon/CreatingPGs.h 
>>>> > >>> encode/decode methods.
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> sage
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>> 
>>>> > >>>> 
>>>> > >>>> 
>>>> > >>>>> On 3 Oct 2018, at 16:46, Sage Weil <s...@newdream.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>> Oh... I think this is the problem:
>>>> > >>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>> 2018-10-03 16:37:04.284 7efef2ae0700 20 slow op 
>>>> > >>>>> osd_pg_create(e72883 
>>>> > >>>>> 66.af:60196 66.ba:60196 66.be:60196 66.d8:60196 66.f8:60196 
>>>> > >>>>> 66.124:60196 
>>>> > >>>>> 66.14c:60196 66.1ac:60196 66.223:60196 66.248:60196 66.271:60196 
>>>> > >>>>> 66.2d1:60196 66.47a:68641) initiated 2018-10-03 16:20:01.915916
>>>> > >>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>> You are in the midst of creating new pgs, and unfortunately pg 
>>>> > >>>>> create is 
>>>> > >>>>> one of the last remaining places where the OSDs need to look at a 
>>>> > >>>>> full 
>>>> > >>>>> history of map changes between then and the current map epoch.  In 
>>>> > >>>>> this 
>>>> > >>>>> case, the pool was created in 60196 and it is now 72883, ~12k 
>>>> > >>>>> epochs 
>>>> > >>>>> later.
>>>> > >>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>> What is this new pool for?  Is it still empty, and if so, can we 
>>>> > >>>>> delete 
>>>> > >>>>> it? If yes, I'm ~70% sure that will then get cleaned out at the 
>>>> > >>>>> mon end 
>>>> > >>>>> and restarting the OSDs will make these pg_creates go away.
>>>> > >>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>> s
>>>> > >>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Goktug Yildirim wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>> Hello,
>>>> > >>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>> It seems nothing has changed.
>>>> > >>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>> OSD config: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MtvTr5HYW4/ 
>>>> > >>>>>> <https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MtvTr5HYW4/>
>>>> > >>>>>> OSD debug log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Sx64xGzkR/ 
>>>> > >>>>>> <https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Sx64xGzkR/>
>>>> > >>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2018, at 14:27, Darius Kasparavičius <daz...@gmail.com> 
>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello,
>>>> > >>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>> You can also reduce the osd map updates by adding this to your 
>>>> > >>>>>>> ceph
>>>> > >>>>>>> config file. "osd crush update on start = false". This should 
>>>> > >>>>>>> remove
>>>> > >>>>>>> and update that is generated when osd starts.
>>>> > >>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:03:21.534 7fe15eddb700  0 
>>>> > >>>>>>> mon.SRV-SBKUARK14@0(leader)
>>>> > >>>>>>> e14 handle_command mon_command({"prefix": "osd crush
>>>> > >>>>>>> set-device-class", "class": "hdd", "ids": ["47"]} v 0) v1
>>>> > >>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:03:21.534 7fe15eddb700  0 log_channel(audit) log 
>>>> > >>>>>>> [INF] :
>>>> > >>>>>>> from='osd.47 10.10.112.17:6803/64652' entity='osd.47' 
>>>> > >>>>>>> cmd=[{"prefix":
>>>> > >>>>>>> "osd crush set-device-class", "class": "hdd", "ids": ["47"]}]:
>>>> > >>>>>>> dispatch
>>>> > >>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:03:21.538 7fe15eddb700  0 
>>>> > >>>>>>> mon.SRV-SBKUARK14@0(leader)
>>>> > >>>>>>> e14 handle_command mon_command({"prefix": "osd crush 
>>>> > >>>>>>> create-or-move",
>>>> > >>>>>>> "id": 47, "weight":3.6396, "args": ["host=SRV-SEKUARK8",
>>>> > >>>>>>> "root=default"]} v 0) v1
>>>> > >>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:03:21.538 7fe15eddb700  0 log_channel(audit) log 
>>>> > >>>>>>> [INF] :
>>>> > >>>>>>> from='osd.47 10.10.112.17:6803/64652' entity='osd.47' 
>>>> > >>>>>>> cmd=[{"prefix":
>>>> > >>>>>>> "osd crush create-or-move", "id": 47, "weight":3.6396, "args":
>>>> > >>>>>>> ["host=SRV-SEKUARK8", "root=default"]}]: dispatch
>>>> > >>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:03:21.538 7fe15eddb700  0
>>>> > >>>>>>> mon.SRV-SBKUARK14@0(leader).osd e72601 create-or-move crush item 
>>>> > >>>>>>> name
>>>> > >>>>>>> 'osd.47' initial_weight 3.6396 at location
>>>> > >>>>>>> {host=SRV-SEKUARK8,root=default}
>>>> > >>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:03:22.250 7fe1615e0700  1
>>>> > >>>>>>> mon.SRV-SBKUARK14@0(leader).osd e72601 do_prune osdmap full prune
>>>> > >>>>>>> enabled
>>>> > >>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 3:16 PM Goktug Yildirim
>>>> > >>>>>>> <goktug.yildi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi Sage,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you for your response. Now I am sure this incident is 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> going to be resolved.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> The problem started when 7 server crashed same time and they 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> came back after ~5 minutes.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Two of our 3 mon services were restarted in this crash. Since 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> mon services are enabled they should be started nearly at the 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> same time. I dont know if this makes any difference but some of 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> the guys on IRC told it is required that they start in order 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> not at the same time. Otherwise it could break things badly.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> After 9 days we still see 3400-3500 active+clear PG. But in the 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> end we have so many STUCK request and our cluster can not heal 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> itself.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> When we set noup flag, OSDs can catch up epoch easily. But when 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> we unset the flag we see so many STUCKS and SLOW OPS in 1 hour.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> I/O load on all of my OSD disks are at around %95 utilization 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> and never ends. CPU and RAM usage are OK.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> OSDs get stuck that we even can't run “ceph pg osd.0 query”.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also we tried to change RBD pool replication size 2 to 1. Our 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> goal was the eliminate older PG's and leaving cluster with good 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> ones.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> With replication size=1 we saw "%13 PGS not active”. But it 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> didn’t solve our problem.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Of course we have to save %100 of data. But we feel like even 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> saving %50 of our data will be make us very happy right now.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is what happens when the cluster starts. I believe it 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> explains the whole story very nicely.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-HHuACyXkYt7e0soafQwAbWJP1qs8-u1/view?usp=sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is our ceph.conf:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8sQhfPDXnW/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is the output of "osd stat && osd epochs && ceph -s && 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> ceph health”:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g5t8xnrjjZ/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is pg dump:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zYqsN5T95h/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is iostat & perf top:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Pgf3mcXXX8/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This strace output of ceph-osd:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YCdtfh5qX8/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is OSD log (default debug):
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z2JrrBzzkM/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is leader MON log (default debug):
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RcGmsVKmzG/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> These are OSDs failed to start. Total number is 58.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZfRD5ZtvpS/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pkRdVjCH4D/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zJTf2fzSj9/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xpJRK6YhRX/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SY3576dNbJ/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/smyT6Y976b/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is OSD video with debug osd = 20 and debug ms = 1 and 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> debug_filestore = 20.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UHHocK3Wy8pVpgZ4jV8Rl1z7rqK3bcJi/view?usp=sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is OSD logfile with debug osd = 20 and debug ms = 1 and 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> debug_filestore = 20.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gH5Z0dUe36jM8FaulahEL36sxXrhORWI/view?usp=sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> As far as I understand OSD catchs up with the mon epoch and 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> exceeds mon epoch somehow??
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66c0bf9700 20 osd.150 72642 mkpg 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 66.f8 e60196@2018-09-28 23:57:08.251119
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66c0bf9700 10 osd.150 72642 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> build_initial_pg_history 66.f8 created 60196
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66c0bf9700 20 osd.150 72642 get_map 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 60196 - loading and decoding 0x19da8400
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66a6bc5700 20 osd.150 op_wq(1) 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> _process 66.d8 to_process <> waiting <> waiting_peering {}
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66a6bc5700 20 osd.150 op_wq(1) 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> _process OpQueueItem(66.d8 PGPeeringEvent(epoch_sent: 72642 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> epoch_requested: 72642 NullEvt +create_info) prio 255 cost 10 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> e72642) queued
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66a6bc5700 20 osd.150 op_wq(1) 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> _process 66.d8 to_process <OpQueueItem(66.d8 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> PGPeeringEvent(epoch_sent: 72642 epoch_requested: 72642 NullEvt 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> +create_info) prio 255 cost 10 e72642)> waiting <> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> waiting_peering {}
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66a6bc5700 20 osd.150 op_wq(1) 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> _process OpQueueItem(66.d8 PGPeeringEvent(epoch_sent: 72642 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> epoch_requested: 72642 NullEvt +create_info) prio 255 cost 10 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> e72642) pg 0xb579400
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66a6bc5700 10 osd.150 pg_epoch: 72642 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> pg[66.d8( v 39934'8971934 (38146'8968839,39934'8971934] 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> local-lis/les=72206/72212 n=2206 ec=50786/50786 lis/c 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 72206/72206 les/c/f 72212/72212/0 72642/72642/72642) [150] r=0 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> lpr=72642 pi=[72206,72642)/1 crt=39934'8971934 lcod 0'0 mlcod 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 0'0 peering mbc={} ps=[1~11]] do_peering_event: epoch_sent: 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 72642 epoch_requested: 72642 NullEvt +create_info
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66a6bc5700 10 log is not dirty
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66a6bc5700 10 osd.150 72642 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> queue_want_up_thru want 72642 <= queued 72642, currently 72206
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.653 7f66a6bc5700 20 osd.150 op_wq(1) 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> _process empty q, waiting
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.665 7f66c0bf9700 10 osd.150 72642 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> add_map_bl 60196 50012 bytes
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.665 7f66c0bf9700 20 osd.150 72642 get_map 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 60197 - loading and decoding 0x19da8880
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.669 7f66c0bf9700 10 osd.150 72642 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> add_map_bl 60197 50012 bytes
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-10-03 14:55:08.669 7f66c0bf9700 20 osd.150 72642 get_map 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 60198 - loading and decoding 0x19da9180
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2018, at 05:14, Sage Weil <s...@newdream.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> osd_find_best_info_ignore_history_les is a dangerous option and 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> you should
>>>> > >>>>>>>> only use it in very specific circumstances when directed by a 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> developer.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> In such cases it will allow a stuck PG to peer.  But you're not 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> getting to
>>>> > >>>>>>>> that point...you're seeing some sort of resource exhaustion.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> The noup trick works when OSDs are way behind on maps and all 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> need to
>>>> > >>>>>>>> catch up.  The way to tell if they are behind is by looking at 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> the 'ceph
>>>> > >>>>>>>> daemon osd.NNN status' output and comparing to the latest 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> OSDMap epoch tha
>>>> > >>>>>>>> t the mons have.  Were they really caught up when you unset 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> noup?
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm just catching up and haven't read the whole thread but I 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> haven't seen
>>>> > >>>>>>>> anything that explains why teh OSDs are dong lots of disk IO.  
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Catching up
>>>> > >>>>>>>> on maps could explain it but not why they wouldn't peer once 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> they were all
>>>> > >>>>>>>> marked up...
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> sage
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, Göktuğ Yıldırım wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Anyone heart about osd_find_best_info_ignore_history_les = true 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> ?
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Is that be usefull here? There is such a less information about 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> it.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Goktug Yildirim <goktug.yildi...@gmail.com> şunları yazdı (2 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Eki 2018 22:11):
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Indeed I left ceph-disk to decide the wal and db partitions 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> when I read somewhere that that will do the proper sizing.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> For the blustore cache size I have plenty of RAM. I will 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> increase 8GB for each and decide a more calculated number    
>>>> > >>>>>>>> after cluster settles.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> For the osd map loading I’ve also figured it out. And it is in 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> loop. For that reason I started cluster with noup flag and 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> waited OSDs to reach the uptodate epoch number. After that I 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> unset noup. But I did not pay attention to manager logs. Let me 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> check it, thank you!
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> I am not forcing jmellac or anything else really. I have a very 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> standard installation and no tweaks or tunings. All we ask for 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> the stability versus speed from the begining. And here we are :/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2018, at 21:53, Darius Kasparavičius 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> <daz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> I can see some issues from the osd log file. You have an 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> extremely low
>>>> > >>>>>>>> size db and wal partitions. Only 1GB for DB and 576MB for wal. 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> I would
>>>> > >>>>>>>> recommend cranking up rocksdb cache size as much as possible. 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> If you
>>>> > >>>>>>>> have RAM you can also increase bluestores cache size for hdd. 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Default
>>>> > >>>>>>>> is 1GB be as liberal as you can without getting OOM kills. You 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> also
>>>> > >>>>>>>> have lots of osd map loading and decoding in the log. Are you 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> sure all
>>>> > >>>>>>>> monitors/managers/osds are up to date? Plus make sure you aren't
>>>> > >>>>>>>> forcing jemalloc loading. I had a funny interaction after 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> upgrading to
>>>> > >>>>>>>> mimic.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:02 PM Goktug Yildirim
>>>> > >>>>>>>> <goktug.yildi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hello Darius,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for reply!
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> The main problem is we can not query PGs. “ceph pg 67.54f 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> query” does stucks and wait forever since OSD is unresponsive.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> We are certain that OSD gets unresponsive as soon as it UP. And 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> we are certain that OSD responds again after its disk 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> utilization stops.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> So we have a small test like that:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Stop all OSDs (168 of them)
>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Start OSD1. %95 osd disk utilization immediately starts. It 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> takes 8 mins to finish. Only after that “ceph pg 67.54f query” 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> works!
>>>> > >>>>>>>> * While OSD1 is “up" start OSD2. As soon as OSD2 starts OSD1 & 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> OSD2 starts %95 disk utilization. This takes 17 minutes to 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> finish.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Now start OSD3 and it is the same. All OSDs start high I/O 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> and it takes 25 mins to settle.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> * If you happen to start 5 of them at the same all of the OSDs 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> start high I/O again. And it takes 1 hour to finish.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> So in the light of these findings we flagged noup, started all 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> OSDs. At first there was no I/O. After 10 minutes we unset 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> noup. All of 168 OSD started to make high I/O. And we thought 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> that if we wait long enough it will finish & OSDs will be 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> responsive again. After 24hours they did not because I/O did 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> not finish or even slowed down.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> One can think that is a lot of data there to scan. But it is 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> just 33TB.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> So at short we dont know which PG is stuck so we can remove it.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> However we met an weird thing half an hour ago. We exported the 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> same PG from two different OSDs. One was 4.2GB and the other is 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 500KB! So we decided to export all OSDs for backup. Then we 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> will delete strange sized ones and start the cluster all over. 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Maybe then we could solve the stucked or unfound PGs as you 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> advise.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Any thought would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2018, at 18:16, Darius Kasparavičius 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> <daz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Currently you have 15 objects missing. I would recommend 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> finding them
>>>> > >>>>>>>> and making backups of them. Ditch all other osds that are 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> failing to
>>>> > >>>>>>>> start and concentrate on bringing online those that have missing
>>>> > >>>>>>>> objects. Then slowly turn off nodown and noout on the cluster 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> and see
>>>> > >>>>>>>> if it stabilises. If it stabilises leave these setting if not 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> turn
>>>> > >>>>>>>> them back on.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Now get some of the pg's that are blocked and querry the pgs to 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> check
>>>> > >>>>>>>> why they are blocked. Try removing as much blocks as possible 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> and then
>>>> > >>>>>>>> remove the norebalance/norecovery flags and see if it starts to 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> fix
>>>> > >>>>>>>> itself. On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 5:14 PM by morphin
>>>> > >>>>>>>> <morphinwith...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> One of ceph experts indicated that bluestore is somewhat 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> preview tech
>>>> > >>>>>>>> (as for Redhat).
>>>> > >>>>>>>> So it could be best to checkout bluestore and rocksdb. There 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> are some
>>>> > >>>>>>>> tools to check health and also repair. But there are limited
>>>> > >>>>>>>> documentation.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Anyone who has experince with it?
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Anyone lead/help to a proper check would be great.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Goktug Yildirim <goktug.yildi...@gmail.com>, 1 Eki 2018 Pzt, 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 22:55
>>>> > >>>>>>>> tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> We have recently upgraded from luminous to mimic. It’s been 6 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> days since this cluster is offline. The long short story is 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> here: 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2018-September/030078.html
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> I’ve also CC’ed developers since I believe this is a bug. If 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> this is not to correct way I apology and please let me know.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> For the 6 days lots of thing happened and there were some 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> outcomes about the problem. Some of them was misjudged and some 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> of them are not looked deeper.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> However the most certain diagnosis is this: each OSD causes 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> very high disk I/O to its bluestore disk (WAL and DB are fine). 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> After that OSDs become unresponsive or very very less 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> responsive. For example "ceph tell osd.x version” stucks like 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> for ever.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> So due to unresponsive OSDs cluster does not settle. This is 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> our problem!
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is the one we are very sure of. But we are not sure of the 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> reason.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Here is the latest ceph status:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2DyZ5YqPjh/.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This is the status after we started all of the OSDs 24 hours 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> ago.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Some of the OSDs are not started. However it didnt make any 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> difference when all of them was online.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Here is the debug=20 log of an OSD which is same for all others:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8n2kTvwnG6/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> As we figure out there is a loop pattern. I am sure it wont 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> caught from eye.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> This the full log the same OSD.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwzqeajlsdwaoi1/ceph-osd.90.log?dl=0
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Here is the strace of the same OSD process:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8n2kTvwnG6/
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Recently we hear more to uprade mimic. I hope none get hurts as 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> we do. I am sure we have done lots of mistakes to let this 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> happening. And this situation may be a example for other user 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> and could be a potential bug for ceph developer.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Any help to figure out what is going on would be great.
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Goktug Yildirim
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 
>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> > >>>>>>>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > 
>>>> >
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