I have rebuilt the tool, but none of my OSDs no matter dead or alive have any symlinks other than 'block' pointing to LVM. I adjusted main device size but it looks like it needs even more space for db compaction. After executing bluefs-bdev-expand OSD fails to start, however 'fsck' and 'repair' commands finished successfully.
2018-10-01 18:02:39.755 7fc9226c6240 1 freelist init 2018-10-01 18:02:39.763 7fc9226c6240 1 bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _open_alloc opening allocation metadata 2018-10-01 18:02:40.907 7fc9226c6240 1 bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _open_alloc loaded 285 GiB in 2249899 extents 2018-10-01 18:02:40.951 7fc9226c6240 -1 bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _reconcile_bluefs_freespace bluefs extra 0x[6d6f000000~50c800000] 2018-10-01 18:02:40.951 7fc9226c6240 1 stupidalloc 0x0x55d053fb9180 shutdown 2018-10-01 18:02:40.963 7fc9226c6240 1 freelist shutdown 2018-10-01 18:02:40.963 7fc9226c6240 4 rocksdb: [/build/ceph-13.2.2/src/rocksdb/db/db_impl.cc:252] Shutdown: canceling all background work 2018-10-01 18:02:40.967 7fc9226c6240 4 rocksdb: [/build/ceph-13.2.2/src/rocksdb/db/db_impl.cc:397] Shutdown complete 2018-10-01 18:02:40.971 7fc9226c6240 1 bluefs umount 2018-10-01 18:02:40.975 7fc9226c6240 1 stupidalloc 0x0x55d053883800 shutdown 2018-10-01 18:02:40.975 7fc9226c6240 1 bdev(0x55d053c32e00 /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block) close 2018-10-01 18:02:41.267 7fc9226c6240 1 bdev(0x55d053c32a80 /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block) close 2018-10-01 18:02:41.443 7fc9226c6240 -1 osd.1 0 OSD:init: unable to mount object store 2018-10-01 18:02:41.443 7fc9226c6240 -1 ** ERROR: osd init failed: (5) Input/output error > On 1.10.2018, at 18:09, Igor Fedotov <ifedo...@suse.de> wrote: > > Well, actually you can avoid bluestore-tool rebuild. > > You'll need to edit the first chunk of blocks.db where labels are stored. > (Please make a backup first!!!) > > Size label is stored at offset 0x52 and is 8 bytes long - little-endian 64bit > integer encoding. (Please verify that old value at this offset exactly > corresponds to you original volume size and/or 'size' label reported by > ceph-bluestore-tool). > > So you have to put new DB volume size there. Or you can send the first 4K > chunk (e.g. extracted with dd) along with new DB volume size (in bytes) to me > and I'll do that for you. > > > Thanks, > > Igor > > > On 10/1/2018 5:32 PM, Igor Fedotov wrote: >> >> >> On 10/1/2018 5:03 PM, Sergey Malinin wrote: >>> Before I received your response, I had already added 20GB to the OSD (by >>> epanding LV followed by bluefs-bdev-expand) and ran "ceph-kvstore-tool >>> bluestore-kv <path> compact", however it still needs more space. >>> Is that because I didn't update DB size with set-label-key? >> In mimic you need to run both "bluefs-bdev-expand" and "set-label-key" >> command to commit bluefs volume expansion. >> Unfortunately the last command doesn't handle "size" label properly. That's >> why you might need to backport and rebuild with the mentioned commits. >> >>> What exactly is the label-key that needs to be updated, as I couldn't find >>> which one is related to DB: >>> >>> # ceph-bluestore-tool show-label --path /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1 >>> inferring bluefs devices from bluestore path >>> { >>> "/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/block": { >>> "osd_uuid": "f8f122ee-70a6-4c54-8eb0-9b42205b1ecc", >>> "size": 471305551872, >>> "btime": "2018-07-31 03:06:43.751243", >>> "description": "main", >>> "bluefs": "1", >>> "ceph_fsid": "7d320499-5b3f-453e-831f-60d4db9a4533", >>> "kv_backend": "rocksdb", >>> "magic": "ceph osd volume v026", >>> "mkfs_done": "yes", >>> "osd_key": "XXX", >>> "ready": "ready", >>> "whoami": "1" >>> } >>> } >> 'size' label but your output is for block(aka slow) device. >> >> It should return labels for db/wal devices as well (block.db and block.wal >> symlinks respectively). It works for me in master, can't verify with mimic >> at the moment though.. >> Here is output for master: >> >> # bin/ceph-bluestore-tool show-label --path dev/osd0 >> inferring bluefs devices from bluestore path >> { >> "dev/osd0/block": { >> "osd_uuid": "404dcbe9-3f8d-4ef5-ac59-2582454a9a75", >> "size": 21474836480, >> "btime": "2018-09-10 15:55:09.044039", >> "description": "main", >> "bluefs": "1", >> "ceph_fsid": "56eddc15-11b9-4e0b-9192-e391fbae551c", >> "kv_backend": "rocksdb", >> "magic": "ceph osd volume v026", >> "mkfs_done": "yes", >> "osd_key": "AQCsaZZbYTxXJBAAe3jJI4p6WbMjvA8CBBUJbA==", >> "ready": "ready", >> "whoami": "0" >> }, >> "dev/osd0/block.wal": { >> "osd_uuid": "404dcbe9-3f8d-4ef5-ac59-2582454a9a75", >> "size": 1048576000, >> "btime": "2018-09-10 15:55:09.044985", >> "description": "bluefs wal" >> }, >> "dev/osd0/block.db": { >> "osd_uuid": "404dcbe9-3f8d-4ef5-ac59-2582454a9a75", >> "size": 1048576000, >> "btime": "2018-09-10 15:55:09.044469", >> "description": "bluefs db" >> } >> } >> >> >> You can try --dev option instead of --path, e.g. >> ceph-bluestore-tool show-label --dev <path-to-block.db> >> >> >>> >>>> On 1.10.2018, at 16:48, Igor Fedotov <ifedo...@suse.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> This looks like a sort of deadlock when BlueFS needs some additional space >>>> to replay the log left after the crash. Which happens during BlueFS open. >>>> >>>> But such a space (at slow device as DB is full) is gifted in background >>>> during bluefs rebalance procedure which will occur after the open. >>>> >>>> Hence OSDs stuck in permanent crashing.. >>>> >>>> The only way to recover I can suggest for now is to expand DB volumes. You >>>> can do that with lvm tools if you have any spare space for that. >>>> >>>> Once resized you'll need ceph-bluestore-tool to indicate volume expansion >>>> to BlueFS (bluefs-bdev-expand command ) and finally update DB volume size >>>> label with set-label-key command. >>>> >>>> The latter is a bit tricky for mimic - you might need to backport >>>> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/22085/commits/ffac450da5d6e09cf14b8363b35f21819b48f38b >>>> >>>> and rebuild ceph-bluestore-tool. Alternatively you can backport >>>> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/22085/commits/71c3b58da4e7ced3422bce2b1da0e3fa9331530b >>>> >>>> then bluefs expansion and label updates will occur in a single step. >>>> >>>> I'll do these backports in upstream but this will take some time to pass >>>> all the procedures and get into official mimic release. >>>> >>>> Will fire a ticket to fix the original issue as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Igor >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/1/2018 3:28 PM, Sergey Malinin wrote: >>>>> These are LVM bluestore NVMe SSDs created with "ceph-volume --lvm prepare >>>>> --bluestore /dev/nvme0n1p3" i.e. without specifying wal/db devices. >>>>> OSDs were created with bluestore_min_alloc_size_ssd=4096, another >>>>> modified setting is bluestore_cache_kv_max=1073741824 >>>>> >>>>> DB/block usage collected by prometheus module for 3 failed and 1 survived >>>>> OSDs: >>>>> >>>>> ceph_bluefs_db_total_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.0"} 65493008384.0 >>>>> ceph_bluefs_db_total_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.1"} 49013587968.0 >>>>> ceph_bluefs_db_total_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.2"} 76834406400.0 --> this >>>>> one has survived >>>>> ceph_bluefs_db_total_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.3"} 63726157824.0 >>>>> >>>>> ceph_bluefs_db_used_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.0"} 65217232896.0 >>>>> ceph_bluefs_db_used_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.1"} 48944381952.0 >>>>> ceph_bluefs_db_used_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.2"} 68093476864.0 >>>>> ceph_bluefs_db_used_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.3"} 63632834560.0 >>>>> >>>>> ceph_osd_stat_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.0"} 471305551872.0 >>>>> ceph_osd_stat_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.1"} 471305551872.0 >>>>> ceph_osd_stat_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.2"} 471305551872.0 >>>>> ceph_osd_stat_bytes{ceph_daemon="osd.3"} 471305551872.0 >>>>> >>>>> ceph_osd_stat_bytes_used{ceph_daemon="osd.0"} 222328213504.0 >>>>> ceph_osd_stat_bytes_used{ceph_daemon="osd.1"} 214472544256.0 >>>>> ceph_osd_stat_bytes_used{ceph_daemon="osd.2"} 163603996672.0 >>>>> ceph_osd_stat_bytes_used{ceph_daemon="osd.3"} 212806815744.0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> First crashed OSD was doing DB compaction, others crashed shortly after >>>>> during backfilling. Workload was "ceph-data-scan scan_inodes" filling >>>>> metadata pool located on these OSDs at the rate close to 10k >>>>> objects/second. >>>>> Here is the log excerpt of the first crash occurrence: >>>>> >>>>> 2018-10-01 03:27:12.762 7fbf16dd6700 0 >>>>> bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _balance_bluefs_freespace no allocate >>>>> on 0x80000000 min_alloc_size 0x1000 >>>>> 2018-10-01 03:27:12.886 7fbf1e5e5700 4 rocksdb: >>>>> [/build/ceph-13.2.2/src/rocksdb/db/compaction_job.cc:1166] [default] [JOB >>>>> 24] Generated table #89741: 106356 keys, 68110589 bytes >>>>> 2018-10-01 03:27:12.886 7fbf1e5e5700 4 rocksdb: EVENT_LOG_v1 >>>>> {"time_micros": 1538353632892744, "cf_name": "default", "job": 24, >>>>> "event": "table_file_creation", "file_number": 89741, "file_size": >>>>> 68110589, "table_properties": {"data_size": 67112903, "index_size": >>>>> 579319, "filter_size": 417316, "raw_key_size": 6733561, >>>>> "raw_average_key_size": 63, "raw_value_size": 60994583, >>>>> "raw_average_value_size": 573, "num_data_blocks": 16336, "num_entries": >>>>> 106356, "filter_policy_name": "rocksdb.BuiltinBloomFilter", >>>>> "kDeletedKeys": "14444", "kMergeOperands": "0"}} >>>>> 2018-10-01 03:27:12.934 7fbf1e5e5700 4 rocksdb: >>>>> [/build/ceph-13.2.2/src/rocksdb/db/compaction_job.cc:1166] [default] [JOB >>>>> 24] Generated table #89742: 23214 keys, 16352315 bytes >>>>> 2018-10-01 03:27:12.934 7fbf1e5e5700 4 rocksdb: EVENT_LOG_v1 >>>>> {"time_micros": 1538353632938670, "cf_name": "default", "job": 24, >>>>> "event": "table_file_creation", "file_number": 89742, "file_size": >>>>> 16352315, "table_properties": {"data_size": 16116986, "index_size": >>>>> 139894, "filter_size": 94386, "raw_key_size": 1470883, >>>>> "raw_average_key_size": 63, "raw_value_size": 14775006, >>>>> "raw_average_value_size": 636, "num_data_blocks": 3928, "num_entries": >>>>> 23214, "filter_policy_name": "rocksdb.BuiltinBloomFilter", >>>>> "kDeletedKeys": "90", "kMergeOperands": "0"}} >>>>> 2018-10-01 03:27:13.042 7fbf1e5e5700 1 bluefs _allocate failed to >>>>> allocate 0x4100000 on bdev 1, free 0x1a00000; fallback to bdev 2 >>>>> 2018-10-01 03:27:13.042 7fbf1e5e5700 -1 bluefs _allocate failed to >>>>> allocate 0x4100000 on bdev 2, dne >>>>> 2018-10-01 03:27:13.042 7fbf1e5e5700 -1 bluefs _flush_range allocated: >>>>> 0x0 offset: 0x0 length: 0x40ea9f1 >>>>> 2018-10-01 03:27:13.046 7fbf1e5e5700 -1 >>>>> /build/ceph-13.2.2/src/os/bluestore/BlueFS.cc: In function 'int >>>>> BlueFS::_flush_range(BlueFS::FileWriter*, uint64_t, uint64_t)' thread >>>>> 7fbf1e5e5700 time 2018-10-01 03:27:13.048298 >>>>> /build/ceph-13.2.2/src/os/bluestore/BlueFS.cc: 1663: FAILED assert(0 == >>>>> "bluefs enospc") >>>>> >>>>> ceph version 13.2.2 (02899bfda814146b021136e9d8e80eba494e1126) mimic >>>>> (stable) >>>>> 1: (ceph::__ceph_assert_fail(char const*, char const*, int, char >>>>> const*)+0x102) [0x7fbf2d4fe5c2] >>>>> 2: (()+0x26c787) [0x7fbf2d4fe787] >>>>> 3: (BlueFS::_flush_range(BlueFS::FileWriter*, unsigned long, unsigned >>>>> long)+0x1ab4) [0x5619325114b4] >>>>> 4: (BlueRocksWritableFile::Flush()+0x3d) [0x561932527c1d] >>>>> 5: (rocksdb::WritableFileWriter::Flush()+0x1b9) [0x56193271c399] >>>>> 6: (rocksdb::WritableFileWriter::Sync(bool)+0x3b) [0x56193271d42b] >>>>> 7: (rocksdb::CompactionJob::FinishCompactionOutputFile(rocksdb::Status >>>>> const&, rocksdb::CompactionJob::SubcompactionState*, >>>>> rocksdb::RangeDelAggregator*, CompactionIterationStats*, rocksdb::Slice >>>>> const*)+0x3db) [0x56193276098b] >>>>> 8: >>>>> (rocksdb::CompactionJob::ProcessKeyValueCompaction(rocksdb::CompactionJob::SubcompactionState*)+0x7d9) >>>>> [0x561932763da9] >>>>> 9: (rocksdb::CompactionJob::Run()+0x314) [0x561932765504] >>>>> 10: (rocksdb::DBImpl::BackgroundCompaction(bool*, rocksdb::JobContext*, >>>>> rocksdb::LogBuffer*, rocksdb::DBImpl::PrepickedCompaction*)+0xc54) >>>>> [0x5619325b5c44] >>>>> 11: >>>>> (rocksdb::DBImpl::BackgroundCallCompaction(rocksdb::DBImpl::PrepickedCompaction*, >>>>> rocksdb::Env::Priority)+0x397) [0x5619325b8557] >>>>> 12: (rocksdb::DBImpl::BGWorkCompaction(void*)+0x97) [0x5619325b8cd7] >>>>> 13: (rocksdb::ThreadPoolImpl::Impl::BGThread(unsigned long)+0x266) >>>>> [0x5619327a5e36] >>>>> 14: (rocksdb::ThreadPoolImpl::Impl::BGThreadWrapper(void*)+0x47) >>>>> [0x5619327a5fb7] >>>>> 15: (()+0xbe733) [0x7fbf2b500733] >>>>> 16: (()+0x76db) [0x7fbf2bbf86db] >>>>> 17: (clone()+0x3f) [0x7fbf2abbc88f] >>>>> NOTE: a copy of the executable, or `objdump -rdS <executable>` is >>>>> needed to interpret this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 1.10.2018, at 15:01, Igor Fedotov <ifedo...@suse.de> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sergey, >>>>>> >>>>>> could you please provide more details on your OSDs ? >>>>>> >>>>>> What are sizes for DB/block devices? >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you have any modifications in BlueStore config settings? >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you share stats you're referring to? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Igor >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/1/2018 12:29 PM, Sergey Malinin wrote: >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> 3 of 4 NVME OSDs crashed at the same time on assert(0 == "bluefs >>>>>>> enospc") and no longer start. >>>>>>> Stats collected just before crash show that ceph_bluefs_db_used_bytes >>>>>>> is 100% used. Although OSDs have over 50% of free space, it is not >>>>>>> reallocated for DB usage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2018-10-01 12:18:06.744 7f1d6a04d240 1 bluefs _allocate failed to >>>>>>> allocate 0x100000 on bdev 1, free 0x0; fallback to bdev 2 >>>>>>> 2018-10-01 12:18:06.744 7f1d6a04d240 -1 bluefs _allocate failed to >>>>>>> allocate 0x100000 on bdev 2, dne >>>>>>> 2018-10-01 12:18:06.744 7f1d6a04d240 -1 bluefs _flush_range allocated: >>>>>>> 0x0 offset: 0x0 length: 0xa8700 >>>>>>> 2018-10-01 12:18:06.748 7f1d6a04d240 -1 >>>>>>> /build/ceph-13.2.2/src/os/bluestore/BlueFS.cc: In function 'int >>>>>>> BlueFS::_flush_range(BlueFS::FileWriter*, uint64_t, uint64_t)' thread >>>>>>> 7f1d6a04d240 time 2018-10-01 12:18:06.746800 >>>>>>> /build/ceph-13.2.2/src/os/bluestore/BlueFS.cc: 1663: FAILED assert(0 == >>>>>>> "bluefs enospc") >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ceph version 13.2.2 (02899bfda814146b021136e9d8e80eba494e1126) mimic >>>>>>> (stable) >>>>>>> 1: (ceph::__ceph_assert_fail(char const*, char const*, int, char >>>>>>> const*)+0x102) [0x7f1d6146f5c2] >>>>>>> 2: (()+0x26c787) [0x7f1d6146f787] >>>>>>> 3: (BlueFS::_flush_range(BlueFS::FileWriter*, unsigned long, unsigned >>>>>>> long)+0x1ab4) [0x5586b22684b4] >>>>>>> 4: (BlueRocksWritableFile::Flush()+0x3d) [0x5586b227ec1d] >>>>>>> 5: (rocksdb::WritableFileWriter::Flush()+0x1b9) [0x5586b2473399] >>>>>>> 6: (rocksdb::WritableFileWriter::Sync(bool)+0x3b) [0x5586b247442b] >>>>>>> 7: (rocksdb::BuildTable(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, >>>>>>> std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, rocksdb::Env*, >>>>>>> rocksdb::ImmutableCFOptions const&, rocksdb::MutableCFOptions const&, >>>>>>> rocksdb::EnvOptions const&, rock >>>>>>> sdb::TableCache*, rocksdb::InternalIterator*, >>>>>>> std::unique_ptr<rocksdb::InternalIterator, >>>>>>> std::default_delete<rocksdb::InternalIterator> >, >>>>>>> rocksdb::FileMetaData*, rocksdb::InternalKeyComparator const&, >>>>>>> std::vector<std::unique_ptr< >>>>>>> rocksdb::IntTblPropCollectorFactory, >>>>>>> std::default_delete<rocksdb::IntTblPropCollectorFactory> >, >>>>>>> std::allocator<std::unique_ptr<rocksdb::IntTblPropCollectorFactory, >>>>>>> std::default_delete<rocksdb::IntTblPropCollectorFactory> > > > co >>>>>>> nst*, unsigned int, std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, >>>>>>> std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, >>>>>>> std::vector<unsigned long, std::allocator<unsigned long> >, unsigned >>>>>>> long, rocksdb::SnapshotChecker*, rocksdb::Compression >>>>>>> Type, rocksdb::CompressionOptions const&, bool, >>>>>>> rocksdb::InternalStats*, rocksdb::TableFileCreationReason, >>>>>>> rocksdb::EventLogger*, int, rocksdb::Env::IOPriority, >>>>>>> rocksdb::TableProperties*, int, unsigned long, unsigned long, rocksdb >>>>>>> ::Env::WriteLifeTimeHint)+0x1e24) [0x5586b249ef94] >>>>>>> 8: (rocksdb::DBImpl::WriteLevel0TableForRecovery(int, >>>>>>> rocksdb::ColumnFamilyData*, rocksdb::MemTable*, >>>>>>> rocksdb::VersionEdit*)+0xcb7) [0x5586b2321457] >>>>>>> 9: (rocksdb::DBImpl::RecoverLogFiles(std::vector<unsigned long, >>>>>>> std::allocator<unsigned long> > const&, unsigned long*, bool)+0x19de) >>>>>>> [0x5586b232373e] >>>>>>> 10: >>>>>>> (rocksdb::DBImpl::Recover(std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor, >>>>>>> std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor> > const&, bool, bool, >>>>>>> bool)+0x5d4) [0x5586b23242f4] >>>>>>> 11: (rocksdb::DBImpl::Open(rocksdb::DBOptions const&, >>>>>>> std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, >>>>>>> std::allocator<char> > const&, >>>>>>> std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor, >>>>>>> std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescri >>>>>>> ptor> > const&, std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyHandle*, >>>>>>> std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyHandle*> >*, rocksdb::DB**, >>>>>>> bool)+0x68b) [0x5586b232559b] >>>>>>> 12: (rocksdb::DB::Open(rocksdb::DBOptions const&, >>>>>>> std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, >>>>>>> std::allocator<char> > const&, >>>>>>> std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor, >>>>>>> std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyDescriptor >>>>>>>>> const&, std::vector<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyHandle*, >>>>>>>>> std::allocator<rocksdb::ColumnFamilyHandle*> >*, rocksdb::DB**)+0x22) >>>>>>>>> [0x5586b2326e72] >>>>>>> 13: (RocksDBStore::do_open(std::ostream&, bool, >>>>>>> std::vector<KeyValueDB::ColumnFamily, >>>>>>> std::allocator<KeyValueDB::ColumnFamily> > const*)+0x170c) >>>>>>> [0x5586b220219c] >>>>>>> 14: (BlueStore::_open_db(bool, bool)+0xd8e) [0x5586b218ee1e] >>>>>>> 15: (BlueStore::_mount(bool, bool)+0x4b7) [0x5586b21bf807] >>>>>>> 16: (OSD::init()+0x295) [0x5586b1d673c5] >>>>>>> 17: (main()+0x268d) [0x5586b1c554ed] >>>>>>> 18: (__libc_start_main()+0xe7) [0x7f1d5ea2db97] >>>>>>> 19: (_start()+0x2a) [0x5586b1d1d7fa] >>>>>>> NOTE: a copy of the executable, or `objdump -rdS <executable>` is >>>>>>> needed to interpret this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> ceph-users mailing list 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