Dear Ric,

I played around a bit - the common denominator seems to be: Moving it within a 
directory subtree below a directory for which max_bytes / max_files quota 
settings are set,
things work fine. 
Moving it to another directory tree without quota settings / with different 
quota settings, rename() returns EXDEV. 

Cheers,
Oliver


Am 25.05.2018 um 15:18 schrieb Ric Wheeler:
> That seems to be the issue - we need to understand why rename sees them as 
> different.
> 
> Ric
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 9:15 AM Oliver Freyermuth 
> <freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de>> wrote:
> 
>     Mhhhm... that's funny, I checked an mv with an strace now. I get:
>     
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     access("/cephfs/some_folder/file", W_OK) = 0
>     rename("foo", "/cephfs/some_folder/file") = -1 EXDEV (Invalid 
> cross-device link)
>     unlink("/cephfs/some_folder/file") = 0
>     lgetxattr("foo", "security.selinux", "system_u:object_r:fusefs_t:s0", 
> 255) = 30
>     
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     But I can assure it's only a single filesystem, and a single ceph-fuse 
> client running.
> 
>     Same happens when using absolute paths.
> 
>     Cheers,
>             Oliver
> 
>     Am 25.05.2018 um 15:06 schrieb Ric Wheeler:
>     > We should look at what mv uses to see if it thinks the directories are 
> on different file systems.
>     >
>     > If the fstat or whatever it looks at is confused, that might explain it.
>     >
>     > Ric
>     >
>     >
>     > On Fri, May 25, 2018, 9:04 AM Oliver Freyermuth 
> <freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de> 
> <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de 
> <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Am 25.05.2018 um 14:57 schrieb Ric Wheeler:
>     >     > Is this move between directories on the same file system?
>     >
>     >     It is, we only have a single CephFS in use. There's also only a 
> single ceph-fuse client running.
>     >
>     >     What's different, though, are different ACLs set for source and 
> target directory, and owner / group,
>     >     but I hope that should not matter.
>     >
>     >     All the best,
>     >     Oliver
>     >
>     >     > Rename as a system call only works within a file system.
>     >     >
>     >     > The user space mv command becomes a copy when not the same file 
> system. 
>     >     >
>     >     > Regards,
>     >     >
>     >     > Ric
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > On Fri, May 25, 2018, 8:51 AM John Spray <jsp...@redhat.com 
> <mailto:jsp...@redhat.com> <mailto:jsp...@redhat.com 
> <mailto:jsp...@redhat.com>> <mailto:jsp...@redhat.com 
> <mailto:jsp...@redhat.com> <mailto:jsp...@redhat.com 
> <mailto:jsp...@redhat.com>>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Oliver Freyermuth
>     >     >     <freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de 
> <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de> <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de 
> <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de>> <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de 
> <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de> <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de 
> <mailto:freyerm...@physik.uni-bonn.de>>>> wrote:
>     >     >     > Dear Cephalopodians,
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > I was wondering why a simple "mv" is taking extraordinarily 
> long on CephFS and must note that,
>     >     >     > at least with the fuse-client (12.2.5) and when moving a 
> file from one directory to another,
>     >     >     > the file appears to be copied first (byte by byte, traffic 
> going through the client?) before the initial file is deleted.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Is this true, or am I missing something?
>     >     >
>     >     >     A mv should not involve copying a file through the client -- 
> it's
>     >     >     implemented in the MDS as a rename from one location to 
> another.
>     >     >     What's the observation that's making it seem like the data is 
> going
>     >     >     through the client?
>     >     >
>     >     >     John
>     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > For large files, this might be rather time consuming,
>     >     >     > and we should certainly advise all our users to not move 
> files around needlessly if this is the case.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Cheers,
>     >     >     >         Oliver
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
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