Thanks for your information.
Here is result when I run atop on 1 Ceph HDD host:
http://prntscr.com/iwmc86

There is some disk busy with over 100%, but the SSD journal (SSD) use only
3%, is it normal? Is there any way to optimize using of SSD journal? Could
you give me some keyword?

Here is configuration of Ceph HDD Host:
Dell PowerEdge R730xd Server Quantity
PE R730/xd Motherboard 1
Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4 2.1GHz,20M Cache,8.0GT/s QPI,Turbo,HT,8C/16T (85W)
Max Mem 2133MHz 1
16GB RDIMM, 2400MT/s, Dual Rank, x8 Data Width 2
300GB 15K RPM SAS 12Gbps 2.5in Flex Bay Hard Drive - OS Drive (RAID 1) 2
4TB 7.2K RPM NLSAS 12Gbps 512n 3.5in Hot-plug Hard Drive - OSD Drive 7
200GB Solid State Drive SATA Mix Use MLC 6Gbps 2.5in Hot-plug Drive -
Journal Drive (RAID 1) 2
PERC H730 Integrated RAID Controller, 1GB Cache *(we are using Writeback
mode)* 1
Dual, Hot-plug, Redundant Power Supply (1+1), 750W 1
Broadcom 5720 QP 1Gb Network Daughter Card 1
QLogic 57810 Dual Port 10Gb Direct Attach/SFP+ Network Adapter 1

For some reasons, we can't configure Jumbo Frame in this cluster. We'll
refer your suggest about scrub.


2018-03-26 7:41 GMT+07:00 Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com>:

>
> Hello,
>
> in general and as reminder for others, the more information you supply,
> the more likely are people to answer and answer with actually pertinent
> information.
> Since you haven't mentioned the hardware (actual HDD/SSD models, CPU/RAM,
> controllers, etc) we're still missing a piece of the puzzle that could be
> relevant.
>
> But given what we have some things are more likely than others.
> Also, an inline 90KB screenshot of a TEXT iostat output is a bit of a
> no-no, never mind that atop instead of top from the start would have given
> you and us much more insight.
>
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:35:57 +0700 Sam Huracan wrote:
>
> > Thank you all.
> >
> > 1. Here is my ceph.conf file:
> > https://pastebin.com/xpF2LUHs
> >
> As Lazlo noted (and it matches your iostat output beautifully), tuning
> down scrubs is likely going to have an immediate beneficial impact, as
> deep-scrubs in particular are VERY disruptive and I/O intense operations.
>
> However the "osd scrub sleep = 0.1" may make things worse in certain Jewel
> versions, as they all went through the unified queue and this would cause
> a sleep for ALL operations, not just the scrub ones.
> I can't remember when this was fixed and the changelog is of no help, so
> hopefully somebody who knows will pipe up.
> If in doubt of course, experiment.
>
> In addition to that, if you have low usage times, set
> your osd_scrub_(start|end)_hour accordingly and also check the ML archives
> for other scrub scheduling tips.
>
> I'd also leave these:
>         filestore max sync interval = 100
>         filestore min sync interval = 50
>         filestore queue max ops  = 5000
>         filestore queue committing max ops  = 5000
>         journal max write entries  = 1000
>         journal queue max ops  = 5000
>
> at their defaults, playing with those parameters requires a good
> understanding of how Ceph filestore works AND usually only makes sense
> with SSD/NVMe setups.
> Especially the first 2 could lead to quite the IO pileup.
>
>
> > 2. Here is result from ceph -s:
> > root@ceph1:/etc/ceph# ceph -s
> >     cluster 31154d30-b0d3-4411-9178-0bbe367a5578
> >      health HEALTH_OK
> >      monmap e3: 3 mons at {ceph1=
> > 10.0.30.51:6789/0,ceph2=10.0.30.52:6789/0,ceph3=10.0.30.53:6789/0}
> >             election epoch 18, quorum 0,1,2 ceph1,ceph2,ceph3
> >      osdmap e2473: 63 osds: 63 up, 63 in
> >             flags sortbitwise,require_jewel_osds
> >       pgmap v34069952: 4096 pgs, 6 pools, 21534 GB data, 5696 kobjects
> >             59762 GB used, 135 TB / 194 TB avail
> >                 4092 active+clean
> >                    2 active+clean+scrubbing
> >                    2 active+clean+scrubbing+deep
> >   client io 36096 kB/s rd, 41611 kB/s wr, 1643 op/s rd, 1634 op/s wr
> >
> See above about deep-scrub, which will read ALL the objects of the PG
> being scrubbed and thus not only saturates the OSDs involved with reads
> but ALSO dirties the pagecache with cold objects, making other reads on
> the nodes slow by requiring them to hit the disks, too.
>
> It would be interesting to see a "ceph -s" when your cluster is busy but
> NOT scrubbing, 1600 write op/s are about what 21 HDDs can handle.
> So for the time being, disable scrubs entirely and see if your problems
> go away.
> If so, you now know the limits of your current setup and will want to
> avoid hitting them again.
>
> Having a dedicated SSD pool for high-end VMs or a cache-tier (if it is a
> fit, not likely in your case) would be a way forward if your client
> demands are still growing.
>
> Christian
>
> >
> >
> > 3. We use 1 SSD for journaling 7 HDD (/dev/sdi), I set 16GB for each
> > journal,  here is result from ceph-disk list command:
> >
> > /dev/sda :
> >  /dev/sda1 ceph data, active, cluster ceph, osd.0, journal /dev/sdi1
> > /dev/sdb :
> >  /dev/sdb1 ceph data, active, cluster ceph, osd.1, journal /dev/sdi2
> > /dev/sdc :
> >  /dev/sdc1 ceph data, active, cluster ceph, osd.2, journal /dev/sdi3
> > /dev/sdd :
> >  /dev/sdd1 ceph data, active, cluster ceph, osd.3, journal /dev/sdi4
> > /dev/sde :
> >  /dev/sde1 ceph data, active, cluster ceph, osd.4, journal /dev/sdi5
> > /dev/sdf :
> >  /dev/sdf1 ceph data, active, cluster ceph, osd.5, journal /dev/sdi6
> > /dev/sdg :
> >  /dev/sdg1 ceph data, active, cluster ceph, osd.6, journal /dev/sdi7
> > /dev/sdh :
> >  /dev/sdh3 other, LVM2_member
> >  /dev/sdh1 other, vfat, mounted on /boot/efi
> > /dev/sdi :
> >  /dev/sdi1 ceph journal, for /dev/sda1
> >  /dev/sdi2 ceph journal, for /dev/sdb1
> >  /dev/sdi3 ceph journal, for /dev/sdc1
> >  /dev/sdi4 ceph journal, for /dev/sdd1
> >  /dev/sdi5 ceph journal, for /dev/sde1
> >  /dev/sdi6 ceph journal, for /dev/sdf1
> >  /dev/sdi7 ceph journal, for /dev/sdg1
> >
> > 4. With iostat, we just run "iostat -x 2", /dev/sdi is journal SSD,
> > /dev/sdh is OS Disk, and the rest is OSD Disks.
> > root@ceph1:/etc/ceph# lsblk
> > NAME                             MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
> > sda                                8:0    0   3.7T  0 disk
> > └─sda1                             8:1    0   3.7T  0 part
> > /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0
> > sdb                                8:16   0   3.7T  0 disk
> > └─sdb1                             8:17   0   3.7T  0 part
> > /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1
> > sdc                                8:32   0   3.7T  0 disk
> > └─sdc1                             8:33   0   3.7T  0 part
> > /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-2
> > sdd                                8:48   0   3.7T  0 disk
> > └─sdd1                             8:49   0   3.7T  0 part
> > /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-3
> > sde                                8:64   0   3.7T  0 disk
> > └─sde1                             8:65   0   3.7T  0 part
> > /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-4
> > sdf                                8:80   0   3.7T  0 disk
> > └─sdf1                             8:81   0   3.7T  0 part
> > /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-5
> > sdg                                8:96   0   3.7T  0 disk
> > └─sdg1                             8:97   0   3.7T  0 part
> > /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-6
> > sdh                                8:112  0 278.9G  0 disk
> > ├─sdh1                             8:113  0   512M  0 part /boot/efi
> > └─sdh3                             8:115  0 278.1G  0 part
> >   ├─hnceph--hdd1--vg-swap (dm-0) 252:0    0  59.6G  0 lvm  [SWAP]
> >   └─hnceph--hdd1--vg-root (dm-1) 252:1    0 218.5G  0 lvm  /
> > sdi                                8:128  0 185.8G  0 disk
> > ├─sdi1                             8:129  0  16.6G  0 part
> > ├─sdi2                             8:130  0  16.6G  0 part
> > ├─sdi3                             8:131  0  16.6G  0 part
> > ├─sdi4                             8:132  0  16.6G  0 part
> > ├─sdi5                             8:133  0  16.6G  0 part
> > ├─sdi6                             8:134  0  16.6G  0 part
> > └─sdi7                             8:135  0  16.6G  0 part
> >
> > Could you give me some idea to continue check?
> >
> >
> > 2018-03-25 12:25 GMT+07:00 Budai Laszlo <laszlo.bu...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > could you post the result of "ceph -s" ? besides the health status
> there
> > > are other details that could help, like the status of your PGs., also
> the
> > > result of "ceph-disk list" would be useful to understand how your
> disks are
> > > organized. For instance with 1 SSD for 7 HDD the SSD could be the
> > > bottleneck.
> > > From the outputs you gave us we don't know which are the spinning disks
> > > and which is the ssd (looking at the numbers I suspect that sdi is your
> > > SSD). we also don't kow what parameters were you using when you've ran
> the
> > > iostat command.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately it's difficult to help you without knowing more about
> your
> > > system.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Laszlo
> > >
> > > On 24.03.2018 20:19, Sam Huracan wrote:
> > > > This is from iostat:
> > > >
> > > > I'm using Ceph jewel, has no HW error.
> > > > Ceph  health OK, we've just use 50% total volume.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-03-24 22:20 GMT+07:00 <c...@elchaka.de <mailto:c...@elchaka.de
> >>:
> > > >
> > > >     I would Check with Tools like atop the utilization of your Disks
> > > also. Perhaps something Related in dmesg or dorthin?
> > > >
> > > >     - Mehmet
> > > >
> > > >     Am 24. März 2018 08:17:44 MEZ schrieb Sam Huracan <
> > > nowitzki.sa...@gmail.com <mailto:nowitzki.sa...@gmail.com>>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         Hi guys,
> > > >         We are running a production OpenStack backend by Ceph.
> > > >
> > > >         At present, we are meeting an issue relating to high iowait
> in
> > > VM, in some MySQL VM, we see sometime IOwait reaches  abnormal high
> peaks
> > > which lead to slow queries increase, despite load is stable (we test
> with
> > > script simulate real load), you can see in graph.
> > > >         https://prnt.sc/ivndni
> > > >
> > > >         MySQL VM are place on Ceph HDD Cluster, with 1 SSD journal
> for 7
> > > HDD. In this cluster, IOwait on each ceph host is about 20%.
> > > >         https://prnt.sc/ivne08
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         Can you guy help me find the root cause of this issue, and
> how
> > > to eliminate this high iowait?
> > > >
> > > >         Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > >
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