> Op 7 juli 2017 om 2:20 schreef Reed Dier <reed.d...@focusvq.com>:
> 
> 
> I could easily see that being the case, especially with Micron as a common 
> thread, but it appears that I am on the latest FW for both the SATA and the 
> NVMe:
> 
> > $ sudo ./msecli -L | egrep 'Device|FW'
> > Device Name          : /dev/sda
> > FW-Rev               : D0MU027
> > Device Name          : /dev/sdb
> > FW-Rev               : D0MU027
> > Device Name          : /dev/sdc
> > FW-Rev               : D0MU027
> > Device Name          : /dev/sdd
> > FW-Rev               : D0MU027
> > Device Name          : /dev/sde
> > FW-Rev               : D0MU027
> > Device Name          : /dev/sdf
> > FW-Rev               : D0MU027
> > Device Name          : /dev/sdg
> > FW-Rev               : D0MU027
> > Device Name          : /dev/sdh
> > FW-Rev               : D0MU027
> > Device Name          : /dev/sdi
> > FW-Rev               : D0MU027
> > Device Name          : /dev/sdj
> > FW-Rev               : D0MU027
> > Device Name          : /dev/nvme0
> > FW-Rev               : 0091634
> 
> D0MU027 and 1634 are the latest reported FW from Micron, current as of 
> 04/12/2017 and 12/07/2016, respectively.
> 
> Could be current FW doesn’t play nice, so thats on the table. But for now, 
> its a thread that can’t be pulled any further.
> 

Also keep in mind that only with SATA 3.1 there is Queued TRIM. Many 
controllers out there are SATA 3.0 and they block when trimming.

So it could either be a firmware or the SATA controller. I also have PM863a 
SSDs which block during TRIM because the controller (Intel X99) doesn't support 
it.

Wido

> Appreciate the feedback,
> 
> Reed
> 
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Peter Maloney 
> > <peter.malo...@brockmann-consult.de> wrote:
> > 
> > Hey,
> > 
> > I have some SAS Micron S630DC-400 which came with firmware M013 which did 
> > the same or worse (takes very long... 100% blocked for about 5min for 16GB 
> > trimmed), and works just fine with firmware M017 (4s for 32GB trimmed). So 
> > maybe you just need an update.
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 07/06/17 18:39, Reed Dier wrote:
> >> Hi Wido,
> >> 
> >> I came across this ancient ML entry with no responses and wanted to follow 
> >> up with you to see if you recalled any solution to this.
> >> Copying the ceph-users list to preserve any replies that may result for 
> >> archival.
> >> 
> >> I have a couple of boxes with 10x Micron 5100 SATA SSD’s, journaled on 
> >> Micron 9100 NVMe SSD’s; ceph 10.2.7; Ubuntu 16.04 4.8 kernel.
> >> 
> >> I have noticed now twice that I’ve had SSD’s flapping due to the fstrim 
> >> eating up the io 100%.
> >> It eventually righted itself after a little less than 8 hours.
> >> Noout flag was set, so it didn’t create any unnecessary rebalance or 
> >> whatnot.
> >> 
> >> Timeline showing that only 1 OSD ever went down at a time, but they seemed 
> >> to go down in a rolling fashion during the fstrim session.
> >> You can actually see in the OSD graph all 10 OSD’s on this node go down 1 
> >> by 1 over time.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> And the OSD’s were going down because of:
> >> 
> >>> 2017-07-02 13:47:32.618752 7ff612721700  1 heartbeat_map is_healthy 
> >>> 'OSD::osd_op_tp thread 0x7ff5ecd0c700' had timed out after 15
> >>> 2017-07-02 13:47:32.618757 7ff612721700  1 heartbeat_map is_healthy 
> >>> 'FileStore::op_tp thread 0x7ff608d9e700' had timed out after 60
> >>> 2017-07-02 13:47:32.618760 7ff612721700  1 heartbeat_map is_healthy 
> >>> 'FileStore::op_tp thread 0x7ff608d9e700' had suicide timed out after 180
> >>> 2017-07-02 13:47:32.624567 7ff612721700 -1 common/HeartbeatMap.cc 
> >>> <http://heartbeatmap.cc/>: In function 'bool 
> >>> ceph::HeartbeatMap::_check(const ceph::heartbeat_handle_d*, const char*, 
> >>> time_t)' thread 7ff612721700 time 2017-07-02 13:47:32.618784
> >>> common/HeartbeatMap.cc <http://heartbeatmap.cc/>: 86: FAILED assert(0 == 
> >>> "hit suicide timeout")
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I am curious if you were able to nice it or something similar to mitigate 
> >> this issue?
> >> Oddly, I have similar machines with Samsung SM863a’s with Intel P3700 
> >> journals that do not appear to be affected by the fstrim load issue 
> >> despite identical weekly cron jobs enabled. Only the Micron drives (newer) 
> >> have had these issues.
> >> 
> >> Appreciate any pointers,
> >> 
> >> Reed
> >> 
> >>> Wido den Hollander wido at 42on.com  
> >>> <mailto:ceph-users%40lists.ceph.com?Subject=Re%3A%20%5Bceph-users%5D%20Watch%20for%20fstrim%20running%20on%20your%20Ubuntu%20systems&In-Reply-To=%3C5486BF08.3010505%4042on.com%3E>
> >>> Tue Dec 9 01:21:16 PST 2014
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> Last sunday I got a call early in the morning that a Ceph cluster was
> >>> having some issues. Slow requests and OSDs marking each other down.
> >>> 
> >>> Since this is a 100% SSD cluster I was a bit confused and started
> >>> investigating.
> >>> 
> >>> It took me about 15 minutes to see that fstrim was running and was
> >>> utilizing the SSDs 100%.
> >>> 
> >>> On Ubuntu 14.04 there is a weekly CRON which executes fstrim-all. It
> >>> detects all mountpoints which can be trimmed and starts to trim those.
> >>> 
> >>> On the Intel SSDs used here it caused them to become 100% busy for a
> >>> couple of minutes. That was enough for them to no longer respond on
> >>> heartbeats, thus timing out and being marked down.
> >>> 
> >>> Luckily we had the "out interval" set to 1800 seconds on that cluster,
> >>> so no OSD was marked as "out".
> >>> 
> >>> fstrim-all does not execute fstrim with a ionice priority. From what I
> >>> understand, but haven't tested yet, is that running fstrim with ionice
> >>> -c Idle should solve this.
> >>> 
> >>> It's weird that this issue didn't come up earlier on that cluster, but
> >>> after killing fstrim all problems we resolved and the cluster ran
> >>> happily again.
> >>> 
> >>> So watch out for fstrim on early Sunday mornings on Ubuntu!
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> Wido den Hollander
> >>> 42on B.V.
> >>> Ceph trainer and consultant
> >> 
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