On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:24:45 +0200 (CEST) Wido den Hollander wrote:

> > Op 27 juni 2017 om 13:05 schreef Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com>:
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 11:24:54 +0200 (CEST) Wido den Hollander wrote:
> >   
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I've been looking in the docs and the source code of BlueStore to figure 
> > > out if it issues TRIM/Discard [0] on SSDs and I haven't been able to find 
> > > an answer.
> > > 
> > > Does BlueStore/BlueFS issue these commands to give back the space to the 
> > > underlying device?
> > > 
> > > For SSDs it improves both write performance and their lifespan, so it 
> > > would be a very nice to have feature.
> > > 
> > > SATA 3.1 has "Queued TRIM Command" which allows it to be 'async' in the 
> > > controller.
> > >   
> > If it were that last bit, I'd be for it, if it isn't then something that
> > you can fully control akin to fstrim would be a much better idea.
> >   
> 
> Problem is that you can't run fstrim on BlueStore since it's not a mounted 
> filesystem like XFS. Therefor TRIM/Discard would have to be issued by the OSD.
> 

I wrote akin, so lets call it bluetrim.
Bluestore already needs too know what blocks are allocated and which not,
so in a typical case stop the osd (noout first), run "bluetrim", fire it
up again.
Maximum speed of trim, no complex logic and most likely least amount of
client performance impact.

Christian

> > That being said, I'm disinclined to deploy any SSDs that actually REQUIRE
> > trim/discard to maintain their functional levels.
> >   
> 
> I wouldn't say require, but it never hurts to actually do a TRIM/Discard when 
> it comes to the lifespan of a SSD.
> 
> However, I'm curious if this is actually in BlueStore or not.
> 
> Wido
> 
> > Christian
> > -- 
> > Christian Balzer        Network/Systems Engineer                
> > ch...@gol.com       Rakuten Communications  
> 


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Christian Balzer        Network/Systems Engineer                
ch...@gol.com           Rakuten Communications
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