If you are on the current release of Ceph Hammer 0.94.10 or Jewel 10.2.7,
you have it already. I don't remember which release it came out in, but
it's definitely in the current releases..

On Thu, May 11, 2017, 12:24 AM Anton Dmitriev <t...@enumnet.ru> wrote:

> "recent enough version of the ceph-objectstore-tool" - sounds very
> interesting. Would it be released in one of next Jewel minor releases?
>
>
> On 10.05.2017 19:03, David Turner wrote:
>
> PG subfolder splitting is the primary reason people are going to be
> deploying Luminous and Bluestore much faster than any other major release
> of Ceph.  Bluestore removes the concept of subfolders in PGs.
>
> I have had clusters that reached what seemed a hardcoded maximum of 12,800
> objects in a subfolder.  It would take an osd_heartbeat_grace of 240 or 300
> to let them finish splitting their subfolders without being marked down.
> Recently I came across a cluster that had a setting of 240 objects per
> subfolder before splitting, so it was splitting all the time, and several
> of the OSDs took longer than 30 seconds to finish splitting into
> subfolders.  That led to more problems as we started adding backfilling to
> everything and we lost a significant amount of throughput on the cluster.
>
> I have yet to manage a cluster with a recent enough version of the
> ceph-objectstore-tool (hopefully I'll have one this month) that includes
> the ability to take an osd offline, split the subfolders, then bring it
> back online.  If you set up a way to monitor how big your subfolders are
> getting, you can leave the ceph settings as high as you want, and then go
> in and perform maintenance on your cluster 1 failure domain at a time
> splitting all of the PG subfolders on the OSDs.  This approach would remove
> this ever happening in the wild.
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:37 AM Piotr Nowosielski <
> piotr.nowosiel...@allegrogroup.com> wrote:
>
>> It is difficult for me to clearly state why some PGs have not been
>> migrated.
>> crushmap settings? Weight of OSD?
>>
>> One thing is certain - you will not find any information about the split
>> process in the logs ...
>>
>> pn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anton Dmitriev [mailto:t...@enumnet.ru]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 10:14 AM
>> To: Piotr Nowosielski <piotr.nowosiel...@allegrogroup.com>;
>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
>> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] All OSD fails after few requests to RGW
>>
>> When I created cluster, I made a mistake in configuration, and set split
>> parameter to 32 and merge to 40, so 32*40*16 = 20480 files per folder.
>> After that I changed split to 8, and increased number of pg and pgp from
>> 2048 to 4096 for pool, where problem occurs. While it was backfilling I
>> observed, that placement groups were backfilling from one set of 3 OSD to
>> another set of 3 OSD (replicated size = 3), so I made a conclusion, that
>> PGs
>> are completely recreating while increasing PG and PGP for pool and after
>> this process number of files per directory must be Ok. But when
>> backfilling
>> finished I found many directories in this pool with ~20
>> 000 files. Why Increasing PG num did not helped? Or maybe after this
>> process
>> some files will be deleted with some delay?
>>
>> I couldn`t find any information about directory split process in logs,
>> also
>> with osd and filestore debug 20. What pattern and in what log I need to
>> grep
>> for finding it?
>>
>> On 10.05.2017 10:36, Piotr Nowosielski wrote:
>> > You can:
>> > - change these parameters and use ceph-objectstore-tool
>> > - add OSD host - rebuild the cluster will reduce the number of files
>> > in the directories
>> > - wait until "split" operations are over ;-)
>> >
>> > In our case, we could afford to wait until the "split" operation is
>> > over (we have 2 clusters in slightly different configurations storing
>> > the same data)
>> >
>> > hint:
>> > When creating a new pool, use the parameter "expected_num_objects"
>> > https://www.suse.com/documentation/ses-4/book_storage_admin/data/ceph_
>> > pools_operate.html
>> >
>> > Piotr Nowosielski
>> > Senior Systems Engineer
>> > Zespół Infrastruktury 5
>> > Grupa Allegro sp. z o.o.
>> > Tel: +48 512 08 55 92
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Anton Dmitriev [mailto:t...@enumnet.ru]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:19 AM
>> > To: Piotr Nowosielski <piotr.nowosiel...@allegrogroup.com>;
>> > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
>> > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] All OSD fails after few requests to RGW
>> >
>> > How did you solved it? Set new split/merge thresholds, and manually
>> > applied it by ceph-objectstore-tool --data-path
>> > /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-${osd_num} --journal-path
>> > /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-${osd_num}/journal
>> > --log-file=/var/log/ceph/objectstore_tool.${osd_num}.log --op
>> > apply-layout-settings --pool default.rgw.buckets.data
>> >
>> > on each OSD?
>> >
>> > How I can see in logs, that split occurs?
>> >
>> > On 10.05.2017 10:13, Piotr Nowosielski wrote:
>> >> Hey,
>> >> We had similar problems. Look for information on "Filestore merge and
>> >> split".
>> >>
>> >> Some explain:
>> >> The OSD, after reaching a certain number of files in the directory
>> >> (it depends of 'filestore merge threshold' and 'filestore split
>> multiple'
>> >> parameters) rebuilds the structure of this directory.
>> >> If the files arrives, the OSD creates new subdirectories and moves
>> >> some of the files there.
>> >> If the files are missing the OSD will reduce the number of
>> >> subdirectories.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Piotr Nowosielski
>> >> Senior Systems Engineer
>> >> Zespół Infrastruktury 5
>> >> Grupa Allegro sp. z o.o.
>> >> Tel: +48 512 08 55 92
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf
>> >> Of Anton Dmitriev
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:14 AM
>> >> To: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] All OSD fails after few requests to RGW
>> >>
>> >> Hi!
>> >>
>> >> I increased pg_num and pgp_num for pool default.rgw.buckets.data from
>> >> 2048 to 4096, and it seems that situation became a bit better,
>> >> cluster dies after 20-30 PUTs, not after 1. Could someone please give
>> >> me some recommendations how to rescue the cluster?
>> >>
>> >> On 27.04.2017 09:59, Anton Dmitriev wrote:
>> >>> Cluster was going well for a long time, but on the previous week
>> >>> osds start to fail.
>> >>> We use cluster like image storage for Opennebula with small load and
>> >>> like object storage with high load.
>> >>> Sometimes disks of some osds utlized by 100 %, iostat shows avgqu-sz
>> >>> over 1000, while reading or writing a few kilobytes in a second,
>> >>> osds on this disks become unresponsive and cluster marks them down.
>> >>> We lower the load to object storage and situation became better.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yesterday situation became worse:
>> >>> If RGWs are disabled and there is no requests to object storage
>> >>> cluster performing well, but if enable RGWs and make a few PUTs or
>> >>> GETs all not SSD osds on all storages become in the same situation,
>> >>> described above.
>> >>> IOtop shows, that xfsaild/<disk> burns disks.
>> >>>
>> >>> trace-cmd record -e xfs\*  for a 10 seconds shows 10 milion objects,
>> >>> as i understand it means ~360 000 objects to push per one osd for a
>> >>> 10 seconds
>> >>>      $ wc -l t.t
>> >>> 10256873 t.t
>> >>>
>> >>> fragmentation on one of such disks is about 3%
>> >>>
>> >>> more information about cluster:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://yadi.sk/d/Y63mXQhl3HPvwt
>> >>>
>> >>> also debug logs for osd.33 while problem occurs
>> >>>
>> >>> https://yadi.sk/d/kiqsMF9L3HPvte
>> >>>
>> >>> debug_osd = 20/20
>> >>> debug_filestore = 20/20
>> >>> debug_tp = 20/20
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Ubuntu 14.04
>> >>> $ uname -a
>> >>> Linux storage01 4.2.0-42-generic #49~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 29
>> >>> 20:22:11 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> >>>
>> >>> Ceph 10.2.7
>> >>>
>> >>> 7 storages: Supermicro 28 osd 4tb 7200 JBOD + journal raid10 4 ssd
>> >>> intel 3510 800gb + 2 osd SSD intel 3710 400gb for rgw meta and index
>> >>> One of this storages differs only in number of osd, it has 26 osd on
>> >>> 4tb, instead of 28 on others
>> >>>
>> >>> Storages connect to each other by bonded 2x10gbit Clients connect to
>> >>> storages by bonded 2x1gbit
>> >>>
>> >>> in 5 storages 2 x CPU E5-2650v2  and 256 gb RAM in 2 storages 2 x
>> >>> CPU
>> >>> E5-2690v3  and 512 gb RAM
>> >>>
>> >>> 7 mons
>> >>> 3 rgw
>> >>>
>> >>> Help me please to rescue the cluster.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> --
>> >> Dmitriev Anton
>> >>
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>> > --
>> > Dmitriev Anton
>>
>>
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