An interesting benchmark would be to compare "Ceph SSD journal" + "ext4 on 
spinner" versus "Ceph without journal" + "ext4 on spinner with external SSD 
journal".
I won't be surprised if the second outperformed the first - you are actually 
making the whole setup much simpler and Ceph is mostly CPU bound. My bet is on 
ext4.

Jan
 
> On 07 Aug 2015, at 16:57, Межов Игорь Александрович <me...@yuterra.ru> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
>> No, I was indeed talking about the ext4 journals, e.g. described here:
> ...
>> but the problem with the persistent device names is keeping me from trying 
>> it.
> 
> So you assume 3-way setup in Ceph: first drive for filesystem data, second
> drive for filesystem journal and third drive for ceph journal?  And what is 
> the benefits? 
> Ceph journalling already support transactional writes and ext4 journaling 
> doesn't
> improve it anyway. Maybe it is useful to split iops onto a pair devices 
> instead of one?
> It is a too complicated setup, I think.
> 
> 
> Megov Igor
> CIO, Yuterra
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> От: ceph-users <ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com> от имени Burkhard Linke 
> <burkhard.li...@computational.bio.uni-giessen.de>
> Отправлено: 7 августа 2015 г. 17:37
> Кому: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> Тема: Re: [ceph-users] Different filesystems on OSD hosts at the        
> samecluster
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 08/07/2015 04:30 PM, Udo Lembke wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I use the ext4-parameters like Christian Balzer wrote in one posting:
>> osd mount options ext4 = "user_xattr,rw,noatime,nodiratime"
>> osd_mkfs_options_ext4 = -J size=1024 -E 
>> lazy_itable_init=0,lazy_journal_init=0
> Thx for the details.
>> 
>> The osd-journals are on SSD-Partitions (without filesystem). IMHO ext4 don't 
>> support an different journal-device, like
>> xfs do, but I assume you mean the osd-jounal and not the filesystem journal?!
> No, I was indeed talking about the ext4 journals, e.g. described here:
> 
> http://raid6.com.au/posts/fs_ext4_external_journal_caveats/
> 
> The setup is tempting (both ext4 + OSD journal on SSD), but the problem
> with the persistent device names is keeping me from trying it.
> 
> Regards,
> Burkhard
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