I'm don't prefer it. you have to maintain those releases up to their EOL. On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Stijn De Weirdt <stijn.dewei...@ugent.be> wrote:
> i would certainly like that all client libs and/or kernel modules stay > tested and supported on these OSes for future ceph releases. not sure how > much work that is, but the at least client side shouldn't be affected by > the init move. > > stijn > > > On 07/30/2015 04:43 PM, Marc wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> much like debian already has, I would suggest to not make systemd a >> dependency for Ceph (or anything for that matter). The reason being here >> that we desperately need sysvinit until the systemd forks are ready >> which offer the systemd init system without all those slapped-on >> appendages that systemd has accumulated. >> >> Alternatively, would it possible to maintain a dedicated changelog where >> all changes to the init scripts are being collected so that people can >> maintain their own sysvinit scripts? I just can't foresee systemd >> becoming usable in the near future and thus we will have to rely on >> sysvinit for quite a while longer. >> >> >> RHEL6 will be maintained until Nov 2020, debian wheezy LTS until May >> 2018, so I feel like it would be premature to drop those already. I >> can't give any names but I know of at least 2 customers I am consulting >> for that have blocked the RHEL7 upgrade due to systemd. >> >> Regards, >> Marc >> >> On 07/30/2015 03:54 PM, Sage Weil wrote: >> >>> As time marches on it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain proper >>> builds and packages for older distros. For example, as we make the >>> systemd transition, maintaining the kludgey sysvinit and udev support for >>> centos6/rhel6 is a pain in the butt and eats up time and energy to >>> maintain and test that we could be spending doing more useful work. >>> >>> "Dropping" them would mean: >>> >>> - Ongoing development on master (and future versions like infernalis >>> and >>> jewel) would not be tested on these distros. >>> >>> - We would stop building upstream release packages on ceph.com for new >>> releases. >>> >>> - We would probably continue building hammer and firefly packages for >>> future bugfix point releases. >>> >>> - The downstream distros would probably continue to package them, >>> but the >>> burden would be on them. For example, if Ubuntu wanted to ship Jewel on >>> precise 12.04, they could, but they'd probably need to futz with the >>> packaging and/or build environment to make it work. >>> >>> So... given that, I'd like to gauge user interest in these old distros. >>> Specifically, >>> >>> CentOS6 / RHEL6 >>> Ubuntu precise 12.04 >>> Debian wheezy >>> >>> Would anyone miss them? >>> >>> In particular, dropping these three would mean we could drop sysvinit >>> entirely and focus on systemd (and continue maintaining the existing >>> upstart files for just a bit longer). That would be a relief. (The >>> sysvinit files wouldn't go away in the source tree, but we wouldn't worry >>> about packaging and testing them properly.) >>> >>> Thanks! >>> sage >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ceph-users mailing list >>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ceph-users mailing list >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > -- Asif Murad Khan Cell: +880-1713-114230
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