I'm using the latest 3.8.0 branch from raring. Is there a more recent/better 
kernel recommended? 

Meanwhile, I think I might have identified the culprit - my SSD drives are 
extremely slow on sync writes, doing 5-600 iops max with 4k blocksize. By 
comparison, an Intel 530 in another server (also installed behind a SAS 
expander is doing the same test with ~ 8k iops. I guess I'm good for replacing 
them. 

Removing the SSD drives from the setup and re-testing with ceph => 595 MB/s 
throughput under the same conditions (only mechanical drives, journal on a 
separate partition on each one, 8 rados bench processes, 16 threads each).  


On Nov 5, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Mark Nelson <mark.nel...@inktank.com> wrote:

> Ok, some more thoughts:
> 
> 1) What kernel are you using?
> 
> 2) Mixing SATA and SAS on an expander backplane can some times have bad 
> effects.  We don't really know how bad this is and in what circumstances, but 
> the Nexenta folks have seen problems with ZFS on solaris and it's not 
> impossible linux may suffer too:
> 
> http://gdamore.blogspot.com/2010/08/why-sas-sata-is-not-such-great-idea.html
> 
> 3) If you are doing tests and look at disk throughput with something like 
> "collectl -sD -oT"  do the writes look balanced across the spinning disks?  
> Do any devices have much really high service times or queue times?
> 
> 4) Also, after the test is done, you can try:
> 
> find /var/run/ceph/*.asok -maxdepth 1 -exec sudo ceph --admin-daemon {} 
> dump_historic_ops \; > foo
> 
> and then grep for "duration" in foo.  You'll get a list of the slowest 
> operations over the last 10 minutes from every osd on the node.  Once you 
> identify a slow duration, you can go back and in an editor search for the 
> slow duration and look at where in the OSD it hung up.  That might tell us 
> more about slow/latent operations.
> 
> 5) Something interesting here is that I've heard from another party that in a 
> 36 drive Supermicro SC847E16 chassis they had 30 7.2K RPM disks and 6 SSDs on 
> a SAS9207-8i controller and were pushing significantly faster throughput than 
> you are seeing (even given the greater number of drives).  So it's very 
> interesting to me that you are pushing so much less.  The 36 drive supermicro 
> chassis I have with no expanders and 30 drives with 6 SSDs can push about 
> 2100MB/s with a bunch of 9207-8i controllers and XFS (no replication).
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 11/05/2013 05:15 AM, Dinu Vlad wrote:
>> Ok, so after tweaking the deadline scheduler and the filestore_wbthrottle* 
>> ceph settings I was able to get 440 MB/s from 8 rados bench instances, over 
>> a single osd node (pool pg_num = 1800, size = 1)
>> 
>> This still looks awfully slow to me - fio throughput across all disks 
>> reaches 2.8 GB/s!!
>> 
>> I'd appreciate any suggestion, where to look for the issue. Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Dinu Vlad <dinuvla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I tested the osd performance from a single node. For this purpose I 
>>> deployed a new cluster (using ceph-deploy, as before) and on 
>>> fresh/repartitioned drives. I created a single pool, 1800 pgs. I ran the 
>>> rados bench both on the osd server and on a remote one. Cluster 
>>> configuration stayed "default", with the same additions about xfs mount & 
>>> mkfs.xfs as before.
>>> 
>>> With a single host, the pgs were "stuck unclean" (active only, not 
>>> active+clean):
>>> 
>>> # ceph -s
>>>  cluster ffd16afa-6348-4877-b6bc-d7f9d82a4062
>>>   health HEALTH_WARN 1800 pgs stuck unclean
>>>   monmap e1: 3 mons at 
>>> {cephmon1=10.4.0.250:6789/0,cephmon2=10.4.0.251:6789/0,cephmon3=10.4.0.252:6789/0},
>>>  election epoch 4, quorum 0,1,2 cephmon1,cephmon2,cephmon3
>>>   osdmap e101: 18 osds: 18 up, 18 in
>>>    pgmap v1055: 1800 pgs: 1800 active; 0 bytes data, 732 MB used, 16758 GB 
>>> / 16759 GB avail
>>>   mdsmap e1: 0/0/1 up
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Test results:
>>> Local test, 1 process, 16 threads: 241.7 MB/s
>>> Local test, 8 processes, 128 threads: 374.8 MB/s
>>> Remote test, 1 process, 16 threads: 231.8 MB/s
>>> Remote test, 8 processes, 128 threads: 366.1 MB/s
>>> 
>>> Maybe it's just me, but it seems on the low side too.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dinu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Mark Nelson <mark.nel...@inktank.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 10/30/2013 01:51 PM, Dinu Vlad wrote:
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The SSDs are 
>>>>> http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/enterprise-hard-drives/ssd/enterprise-sata-ssd/?sku=ST240FN0021
>>>>>  and the HDDs are 
>>>>> http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/enterprise-hard-drives/hdd/constellation/?sku=ST91000640SS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The chasis is a "SiliconMechanics C602" - but I don't have the exact 
>>>>> model. It's based on Supermicro, has 24 slots front and 2 in the back and 
>>>>> a SAS expander.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did a fio test (raw partitions, 4M blocksize, ioqueue maxed out 
>>>>> according to what the driver reports in dmesg). here are the results 
>>>>> (filtered):
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sequential:
>>>>> Run status group 0 (all jobs):
>>>>>  WRITE: io=176952MB, aggrb=2879.0MB/s, minb=106306KB/s, maxb=191165KB/s, 
>>>>> mint=60444msec, maxt=61463msec
>>>>> 
>>>>> Individually, the HDDs had best:worst 103:109 MB/s while the SSDs gave 
>>>>> 153:189 MB/s
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, that looks like what I'd expect to see given the controller being 
>>>> used.  SSDs are probably limited by total aggregate throughput.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Random:
>>>>> Run status group 0 (all jobs):
>>>>>  WRITE: io=106868MB, aggrb=1727.2MB/s, minb=67674KB/s, maxb=106493KB/s, 
>>>>> mint=60404msec, maxt=61875msec
>>>>> 
>>>>> Individually (best:worst) HDD 71:73 MB/s, SSD 68:101 MB/s (with only one 
>>>>> out of 6 doing 101)
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is on just one of the osd servers.
>>>> 
>>>> Where the ceph tests to one OSD server or across all servers?  It might be 
>>>> worth trying tests against a single server with no replication using 
>>>> multiple rados bench instances and just seeing what happens.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dinu
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Mark Nelson <mark.nel...@inktank.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/30/2013 09:05 AM, Dinu Vlad wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've been doing some tests on a newly installed ceph cluster:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> # ceph osd create bench1 2048 2048
>>>>>>> # ceph osd create bench2 2048 2048
>>>>>>> # rbd -p bench1 create test
>>>>>>> # rbd -p bench1 bench-write test --io-pattern rand
>>>>>>> elapsed:   483  ops:   396579  ops/sec:   820.23  bytes/sec: 2220781.36
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> # rados -p bench2 bench 300 write --show-time
>>>>>>> # (run 1)
>>>>>>> Total writes made:      20665
>>>>>>> Write size:             4194304
>>>>>>> Bandwidth (MB/sec):     274.923
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stddev Bandwidth:       96.3316
>>>>>>> Max bandwidth (MB/sec): 748
>>>>>>> Min bandwidth (MB/sec): 0
>>>>>>> Average Latency:        0.23273
>>>>>>> Stddev Latency:         0.262043
>>>>>>> Max latency:            1.69475
>>>>>>> Min latency:            0.057293
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> These results seem to be quite poor for the configuration:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> MON: dual-cpu Xeon E5-2407 2.2 GHz, 48 GB RAM, 2xSSD for OS
>>>>>>> OSD: dual-cpu Xeon E5-2620 2.0 GHz, 64 GB RAM, 2xSSD for OS (on-board 
>>>>>>> controller), 18 HDD 1TB 7.2K rpm SAS for OSD drives and 6 SSDs (SATA) 
>>>>>>> for journal, attached to a LSI 9207-8i controller.
>>>>>>> All servers have dual 10GE network cards, connected to a pair of 
>>>>>>> dedicated switches. Each SSD has 3 10 GB partitions for journals.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Agreed, you should see much higher throughput with that kind of storage 
>>>>>> setup.  What brand/model SSDs are these?  Also, what brand and model of 
>>>>>> chassis?  With 24 drives and 8 SSDs I could push 2GB/s (no replication 
>>>>>> though) with a couple of concurrent rados bench processes going on our 
>>>>>> SC847A chassis, so ~550MB/s aggregate throughput for 18 drives and 6 
>>>>>> SSDs is definitely on the low side.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm actually not too familiar with what the RBD benchmarking commands 
>>>>>> are doing behind the scenes.  Typically I've tested fio on top of a 
>>>>>> filesystem on RBD.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Using ubuntu 13.04, ceph 0.67.4, XFS for backend storage. Cluster was 
>>>>>>> installed using ceph-deploy. ceph.conf pretty much out of the box (diff 
>>>>>>> from default follows)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> osd_journal_size = 10240
>>>>>>> osd mount options xfs = "rw,noatime,nobarrier,inode64"
>>>>>>> osd mkfs options xfs = "-f -i size=2048"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [osd]
>>>>>>> public network = 10.4.0.0/24
>>>>>>> cluster network = 10.254.254.0/24
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All tests were run from a server outside the cluster, connected to the 
>>>>>>> storage network with 2x 10 GE nics.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've done a few other tests of the individual components:
>>>>>>> - network: avg. 7.6 Gbit/s (iperf, mtu=1500), 9.6 Gbit/s (mtu=9000)
>>>>>>> - md raid0 write across all 18 HDDs - 1.4 GB/s sustained throughput
>>>>>>> - fio SSD write (xfs, 4k blocks, directio): ~ 250 MB/s, ~55K IOPS
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What you might want to try doing is 4M direct IO writes using libaio and 
>>>>>> a high iodepth to all drives (spinning disks and SSDs) concurrently and 
>>>>>> see how both the per-drive and aggregate throughput is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With just SSDs, I've been able to push the 9207-8i up to around 3GB/s 
>>>>>> with Ceph writes (1.5GB/s if you don't count journal writes), but 
>>>>>> perhaps there is something interesting about the way the hardware is 
>>>>>> setup on your system.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd appreciate any suggestion that might help improve the performance 
>>>>>>> or identify a bottleneck.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Dinu
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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