Okay, then perhaps I misunderstood the core of the question earlier.
So I would always suggest considering the advantages of a logical
separation of the two networks.


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Am Fr., 14. Nov. 2025 um 15:26 Uhr schrieb Anthony D'Atri <
[email protected]>:

> One strategy is to use VLANs.  It's been a while since I've had to measure
> client and replication traffic at host granularity, but you make a sound
> point.
>
> On Nov 14, 2025, at 9:23 AM, Joachim Kraftmayer <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Anthony and Robert, how can you monitor the OSD client and replication
> traffic separately, e.g. in grafana?
> It has often helped me with error analysis.
> Joachim
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> Am Fr., 14. Nov. 2025 um 14:13 Uhr schrieb Anthony D'Atri <
> [email protected]>:
>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 14, 2025, at 4:37 AM, Robert Sander <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Am 14.11.25 um 9:44 AM schrieb Alexander Leutz:
>> >
>> >> Ceph is my storage, also I name the communication as storage network.
>> >> The proxmox ceph servers has 2 1Gb management ports an 2 10 Gb ports
>> for storage network.
>> >> I set the mon public and the osd cluster networks to the privat IP
>> range 10.10.x.x:
>> >> ceph config set mon public_network 10.10.x.x/24
>> >> ceph config set osd cluster_network 10.10.x.x/24
>> >
>> > In your case I would not setup a separate cluster network.
>>
>> Indeed.  To be clear, Alexander, do you have those two 10GE ports bonded?
>> If so, then I agree with Herr Sander that there is no benefit to defining
>> the cluster_network, and indeed you may be confusing code by doing so.  The
>> cluster network should only be defined if it's *different* from the public
>> network.  The public network is how clients communicate with the Ceph
>> cluster.  If there's a cluster_network, it is only used for internal
>> replication and heartbeating within Ceph.
>>
>> > It is optional and only recommended if you have a network that is at
>> least twice as fast as the public network.
>>
>> Well, say someone has two dual-port 10GE NICs in each system.  They could
>> either bond all four together (which I *think* works but haven't tried) for
>> a public network, or bond one port on each NIC together for the public, and
>> one on each for the private network.
>>
>> I do usually recommend that people not bother with a cluster network if
>> they're using 25GE or better, especially with very dense nodes.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >> After this I only see this as paramter in the GUI screen, under host /
>> ceph / configuration in the section Configuration Database
>> >> Und [global] I still see a second entry named public_network =
>> 192.168.x.x (this is my management network of the proxmox host).
>> >
>> > Change in the config db do not get written to the ceph.conf file.
>>
>> I think he's writing about the Dashboard, not ceph.conf
>>
>> >
>> > You can remove this setting from the ceph.conf file by using an editor
>> as it is now in the config db.
>>
>> If it's in ceph.conf, then absolutely.  All you need in there is the mon
>> information, maybe the fsid.
>>
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > --
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