I can’t send any links or anything right now, but there have been reports that several OSD restarts can be necessary to catch up with the epochs. Or you need to change some config related to osdmaps (I can’t recall the exact name), I believe its default value is 500. Without having looked closely, it could be that the OSDs are not able to catch up in one go and fail. Do you see progress in the osdmap versions when you restart the OSDs again? There should be threads on this list about that. But I’m on my phone, maybe it’s something else entirely.

Zitat von Huseyin Cotuk <[email protected]>:

Hi Kirby,

Not at all. It still sends the ticks and you can see the last lines of the ongoing logs below:

Oct 24 19:58:35 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:35.798+0000 7e2cb3476640 20 osd.11 70297 check_full_status cur ratio 0.77673, physical ratio 0.77673, new state none Oct 24 19:58:36 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock Oct 24 19:58:36 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:36.106+0000 7e2cc86b8640 10 osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock
Oct 24 19:58:36 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick
Oct 24 19:58:36 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 19:58:36 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:36.661+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 10 osd.11 70297 tick Oct 24 19:58:36 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:36.661+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 20 osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 19:58:37 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock Oct 24 19:58:37 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:37.094+0000 7e2cc86b8640 10 osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock
Oct 24 19:58:37 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick
Oct 24 19:58:37 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:37.681+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 10 osd.11 70297 tick Oct 24 19:58:37 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 19:58:37 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:37.681+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 20 osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 19:58:38 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock Oct 24 19:58:38 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:38.074+0000 7e2cc86b8640 10 osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock
Oct 24 19:58:38 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick
Oct 24 19:58:38 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:38.644+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 10 osd.11 70297 tick Oct 24 19:58:38 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:38.644+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 20 osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 19:58:38 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 19:58:39 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock Oct 24 19:58:39 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:39.064+0000 7e2cc86b8640 10 osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock
Oct 24 19:58:39 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick
Oct 24 19:58:39 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 19:58:39 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:39.658+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 10 osd.11 70297 tick Oct 24 19:58:39 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:39.658+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 20 osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 19:58:40 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock Oct 24 19:58:40 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:40.071+0000 7e2cc86b8640 10 osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock Oct 24 19:58:40 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 reports for 0 queries
Oct 24 19:58:40 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 collect_pg_stats
Oct 24 19:58:40 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:40.415+0000 7e2cc18ba640 20 osd.11 70297 reports for 0 queries Oct 24 19:58:40 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:40.415+0000 7e2cc18ba640 15 osd.11 70297 collect_pg_stats
Oct 24 19:58:40 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick
Oct 24 19:58:40 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 19:58:40 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:40.624+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 10 osd.11 70297 tick Oct 24 19:58:40 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:40.624+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 20 osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 19:58:41 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock Oct 24 19:58:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T16:58:41.048+0000 7e2cc86b8640 10 osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock

Selamlar,
Huseyin Cotuk
[email protected]




On 24 Oct 2025, at 19:57, Kirby Haze <[email protected]> wrote:

Are these the end of the logs? This actually looks normal and fine but eventually it will crash? or does the systemd unit stay running and they are stuck on these logs?

On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 9:26 AM Huseyin Cotuk <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
journalctl logs of a failing OSD starts like in the link: https://pastes.io/osd11-restart-log

Oct 24 18:50:46 ank-backup01 systemd[1]: Started [email protected] - Ceph osd.11 for 4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f. Oct 24 18:50:46 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: set uid:gid to 167:167 (ceph:ceph) Oct 24 18:50:46 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: ceph version 19.2.3 (c92aebb279828e9c3c1f5d24613efca272649e62) squid (stable), process ceph-osd, pid 2 Oct 24 18:50:46 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: pidfile_write: ignore empty --pid-file

I can see that it runs with the Ceph version 19.2.3.

After the activation process (it takes some time), it does not crash actually. AFAIR from the logs, it mounts bluefs, starts the rocksdb version 7.9.2 and loads the tables. It evens compacts the rocksdb.

Afterwards,  it triggers the boot process as follows.

Oct 24 18:53:41 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 0 journal looks like hdd Oct 24 18:53:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T15:53:41.705+0000 7e2ccf90a740 2 osd.11 0 journal looks like hdd
Oct 24 18:53:41 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 0 boot
Oct 24 18:53:41 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 0 configured osd_max_object_name[space]_len looks ok Oct 24 18:53:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T15:53:41.705+0000 7e2ccf90a740 2 osd.11 0 boot Oct 24 18:53:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T15:53:41.705+0000 7e2ccf90a740 20 osd.11 0 configured osd_max_object_name[space]_len looks ok

I noted that at this point, it loads the osdmap 70297

Oct 24 18:53:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T15:53:41.706+0000 7e2ccf90a740 20 osd.11 0 get_map 70297 - loading and decoding 0x565a07bb0000

There are lots of missing logs:

Oct 24 18:53:48 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T15:53:48.603+0000 7e2ccf90a740 20 read_log_and_missing 68276'8386071 (0'0) modify 23:bf0d9243:::48f964cb-12c5-4689-8aa4-0b8e573f41d5.37815204.2_001%2f184%2f288%2f052.zip:head by client.43525885.0:1306616953 2025-10-09T11:06:44.324360+0000 0 ObjectCleanRegions clean_offsets: [(48911, 18446744073709502704)], clean_omap: true, new_object: false

After all these missing logs, it starts and loads the PGs.

Oct 24 18:54:05 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 load_pgs opened 66 pgs Oct 24 18:54:05 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 superblock: I am osd.11 Oct 24 18:54:05 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 heartbeat osd_stat(store_statfs(0x19ff4006000/0x0/0x74702400000, data 0x4b4a481b898/0x4b4a4e68000, compress 0x0/0x0/0x0, omap 0x1a50, meta 0xf26958e5b0), peers [] op hist []) Oct 24 18:54:05 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 done with init, starting boot process
Oct 24 18:54:05 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 start_boot

It periodically dumps stats that shows that OSD is running (up) for xxx secs.

Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: Uptime(secs): 600.6 total, 600.0 interval Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: Flush(GB): cumulative 0.000, interval 0.000 Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: AddFile(GB): cumulative 0.000, interval 0.000 Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: AddFile(Total Files): cumulative 0, interval 0 Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: AddFile(L0 Files): cumulative 0, interval 0 Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: AddFile(Keys): cumulative 0, interval 0 Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: Cumulative compaction: 0.00 GB write, 0.00 MB/s write, 0.00 GB read, 0.00 MB/s read, 0.0 seconds Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: Interval compaction: 0.00 GB write, 0.00 MB/s write, 0.00 GB read, 0.00 MB/s read, 0.0 seconds Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: Stalls(count): 0 level0_slowdown, 0 level0_slowdown_with_compaction, 0 level0_numfiles, 0 level0_numfiles_with_compaction, 0 stop for pending_compaction_b> Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: Block cache BinnedLRUCache@0x5659dca05350#2 capacity: 1.06 GB usage: 100.56 MB table_size: 0 occupancy: 18446744073709551615 collections: 2 last_copies: 8> Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: Block cache entry stats(count,size,portion): DataBlock(24571,97.85 MB,8.99328%) FilterBlock(14,1.17 MB,0.107375%) IndexBlock(20,1.54 MB,0.141681%) Misc(1,> Oct 24 19:03:41 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]:


The problem is, it can not register itself to the mon as UP and running. There are lots of ticks and tick_without_osd_lock messages in the log file.

Oct 24 18:57:14 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T15:57:14.370+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 10 osd.11 70297 tick Oct 24 18:57:14 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T15:57:14.370+0000 7e2cc8eb9640 20 osd.11 70297 tick last_purged_snaps_scrub 2025-10-24T08:38:08.454484+0000 next 2025-10-25T18:30:10.329484+0000 Oct 24 18:57:14 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock Oct 24 18:57:14 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[586110]: 2025-10-24T15:57:14.729+0000 7e2cc86b8640 10 osd.11 70297 tick_without_osd_lock Oct 24 18:57:15 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 reports for 0 queries Oct 24 18:57:15 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[586118]: osd.11 70297 collect_pg_stats

It looks like it stays in a loop that send ticks with the older epoch (70297).

Thanks for your help

BR,
Huseyin Cotuk
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>




On 24 Oct 2025, at 18:36, Kirby Haze <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

if you look at the osd’s logs and follow it while trigger a restart through systemctl

systemctl list-units | grep osd

journalctl -u <osd unit>

When the osd boots up it spits out the version, I would be curious to see how it crashes and the stack trace

On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 8:31 AM Huseyin Cotuk <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Kirby,

Is there any way to check whether these OSDs have completed the upgrade successfully or not?

Any help will be appreciated

BR,
Huseyin
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>




On 24 Oct 2025, at 18:14, Kirby Haze <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Osds usually try to load the last clean map on boot, but if these osds finished the upgrade it must have hit an assert I think

On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 8:06 AM Huseyin Cotuk <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Can,

No, I did not add or recreate these OSDs. I tried cephadm to run failing OSDs with the help of following commands without success:

cephadm --image quay.io/ceph/ceph:v19 <http://quay.io/ceph/ceph:v19> unit --name osd.$i --fsid 4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f restart

cephadm --image aade1b12b8e6 run --name osd.$i --fsid 4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f

BR,
Huseyin
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>




> On 24 Oct 2025, at 17:55, Can Özyurt <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Hi Huseyin,
>
> Did you add or recreate these OSDs after the upgrade?
>
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 at 16:42, Huseyin Cotuk <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>> More debug logs from a failing OSD:
>>
>> Oct 24 17:39:52 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[4100566]: 2025-10-24T14:39:52.271+0000 77f47e35c640 20 osd.11 70297 reports for 0 queries >> Oct 24 17:39:52 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[4100566]: 2025-10-24T14:39:52.271+0000 77f47e35c640 15 osd.11 70297 collect_pg_stats >> Oct 24 17:39:52 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[4100574]: osd.11 pg_epoch: 70297 pg[23.b9s0( v 69083'8392506 (68272'8387884,69083'8392506] local-lis/les=69076/69077 n=8314181 ec=21807/21807 lis/c=69076/68833 les/c/f=69077/68834/39143 sis=70280) [11,NONE,NONE,12,31,21,7,NONE,NONE,26,0]p11(0) r=0 lpr=70297 pi=[68833,70280)/5 crt=69083'8392506 lcod 0'0 mlcod 0'0 unknown mbc={}] PeeringState::prepare_stats_for_publish reporting purged_snaps [] >> Oct 24 17:39:52 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[4100566]: 2025-10-24T14:39:52.271+0000 77f47e35c640 20 osd.11 pg_epoch: 70297 pg[23.b9s0( v 69083'8392506 (68272'8387884,69083'8392506] local-lis/les=69076/69077 n=8314181 ec=21807/21807 lis/c=69076/68833 les/c/f=69077/68834/39143 sis=70280) [11,NONE,NONE,12,31,21,7,NONE,NONE,26,0]p11(0) r=0 lpr=70297 pi=[68833,70280)/5 crt=69083'8392506 lcod 0'0 mlcod 0'0 unknown mbc={}] PeeringState::prepare_stats_for_publish reporting purged_snaps [] >> Oct 24 17:39:52 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[4100574]: osd.11 pg_epoch: 70297 pg[23.b9s0( v 69083'8392506 (68272'8387884,69083'8392506] local-lis/les=69076/69077 n=8314181 ec=21807/21807 lis/c=69076/68833 les/c/f=69077/68834/39143 sis=70280) [11,NONE,NONE,12,31,21,7,NONE,NONE,26,0]p11(0) r=0 lpr=70297 pi=[68833,70280)/5 crt=69083'8392506 lcod 0'0 mlcod 0'0 unknown mbc={}] PeeringState::prepare_stats_for_publish publish_stats_to_osd 70297:52872808 >> Oct 24 17:39:52 ank-backup01 ceph-4e7e7d1c-22db-49c7-9f24-5a75cd3a3b9f-osd-11[4100566]: 2025-10-24T14:39:52.271+0000 77f47e35c640 15 osd.11 pg_epoch: 70297 pg[23.b9s0( v 69083'8392506 (68272'8387884,69083'8392506] local-lis/les=69076/69077 n=8314181 ec=21807/21807 lis/c=69076/68833 les/c/f=69077/68834/39143 sis=70280) [11,NONE,NONE,12,31,21,7,NONE,NONE,26,0]p11(0) r=0 lpr=70297 pi=[68833,70280)/5 crt=69083'8392506 lcod 0'0 mlcod 0'0 unknown mbc={}] PeeringState::prepare_stats_for_publish publish_stats_to_osd 70297:52872808 >> Oct 24 17:39:52 ank-backup01 ceph-osd[4100574]: osd.11 pg_epoch: 70297 pg[23.5fs2( v 69081'8395094 (68276'8390628,69081'8395094] local-lis/les=69078/69079 n=8316950 ec=21807/21807 lis/c=69078/68833 les/c/f=69079/68834/39143 sis=70280) [NONE,NONE,11,8,14,16,0,20,17,18,NONE]p11(2) r=2 lpr=70297 pi=[68833,70280)/7 crt=69081'8395094 lcod 0'0 mlcod 0'0 unknown mbc={}] PeeringState::prepare_stats_for_publish reporting purged_snaps []
>>
>>
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>> Huseyin Cotuk
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