Hi Edouard, 

----- Le 8 Mai 25, à 10:15, Edouard FAZENDA <e.faze...@csti.ch> a écrit : 

> Dear all,

> I have the following issue on my Ceph cluster MDSs behind on trimming on my 
> Ceph
> Cluster since the upgrade using cephadm from 18.2.6 to 19.2.2.

> Here some cluster logs :

> 8/5/25 09:00 AM [WRN] overall HEALTH_WARN 2 MDSs behind on trimming

> 8/5/25 08:50 AM [WRN] overall HEALTH_WARN 2 MDSs behind on trimming

> 8/5/25 08:40 AM [WRN] mds.cephfs.node2.isqjza(mds.0): Behind on trimming
> (326/128) max_segments: 128, num_segments: 326

> 8/5/25 08:40 AM [WRN] mds.cephfs.node1.ojmpnk(mds.0): Behind on trimming
> (326/128) max_segments: 128, num_segments: 326

> 8/5/25 08:40 AM [WRN] [WRN] MDS_TRIM: 2 MDSs behind on trimming

> 8/5/25 08:40 AM [WRN] Health detail: HEALTH_WARN 2 MDSs behind on trimming

> 8/5/25 08:33 AM [WRN] Health check update: 2 MDSs behind on trimming 
> (MDS_TRIM)

> 8/5/25 08:33 AM [WRN] Health check failed: 1 MDSs behind on trimming 
> (MDS_TRIM)

> 8/5/25 08:30 AM [INF] overall HEALTH_OK

> 8/5/25 08:22 AM [INF] Cluster is now healthy

> 8/5/25 08:22 AM [INF] Health check cleared: MDS_TRIM (was: 1 MDSs behind on
> trimming)

> 8/5/25 08:22 AM [INF] MDS health message cleared (mds.?): Behind on trimming
> (525/128)

> 8/5/25 08:22 AM [WRN] Health check update: 1 MDSs behind on trimming 
> (MDS_TRIM)

> 8/5/25 08:22 AM [INF] MDS health message cleared (mds.?): Behind on trimming
> (525/128)

> 8/5/25 08:20 AM [WRN] overall HEALTH_WARN 2 MDSs behind on trimming

> 8/5/25 08:10 AM [WRN] mds.cephfs.node2.isqjza(mds.0): Behind on trimming
> (332/128) max_segments: 128, num_segments: 332

> 8/5/25 08:10 AM [WRN] mds.cephfs.node1.ojmpnk(mds.0): Behind on trimming
> (332/128) max_segments: 128, num_segments: 332

> 8/5/25 08:10 AM [WRN] [WRN] MDS_TRIM: 2 MDSs behind on trimming

> 8/5/25 08:10 AM [WRN] Health detail: HEALTH_WARN 2 MDSs behind on trimming

> 8/5/25 08:03 AM [WRN] Health check update: 2 MDSs behind on trimming 
> (MDS_TRIM)

> 8/5/25 08:03 AM [WRN] Health check failed: 1 MDSs behind on trimming 
> (MDS_TRIM)

> 8/5/25 08:00 AM [INF] overall HEALTH_OK

> #ceph fs status

> cephfs - 50 clients

> ======

> RANK STATE MDS ACTIVITY DNS INOS DIRS CAPS

> 0 active cephfs.node1.ojmpnk Reqs: 10 /s 305k 294k 91.8k 6818

> 0-s standby-replay cephfs.node2.isqjza Evts: 0 /s 551k 243k 90.6k 0

> POOL TYPE USED AVAIL

> cephfs_metadata metadata 2630M 2413G

> cephfs_data data 12.7T 3620G

> STANDBY MDS

> cephfs.node3.vdicdn

> MDS version: ceph version 19.2.2 (0eceb0defba60152a8182f7bd87d164b639885b8)
> squid (stable)

> # ceph versions

> {

> "mon": {

> "ceph version 19.2.2 (0eceb0defba60152a8182f7bd87d164b639885b8) squid 
> (stable)":
> 3

> },

> "mgr": {

> "ceph version 19.2.2 (0eceb0defba60152a8182f7bd87d164b639885b8) squid 
> (stable)":
> 2

> },

> "osd": {

> "ceph version 19.2.2 (0eceb0defba60152a8182f7bd87d164b639885b8) squid 
> (stable)":
> 18

> },

> "mds": {

> "ceph version 19.2.2 (0eceb0defba60152a8182f7bd87d164b639885b8) squid 
> (stable)":
> 3

> },

> "rgw": {

> "ceph version 19.2.2 (0eceb0defba60152a8182f7bd87d164b639885b8) squid 
> (stable)":
> 6

> },

> "overall": {

> "ceph version 19.2.2 (0eceb0defba60152a8182f7bd87d164b639885b8) squid 
> (stable)":
> 32

> }

> }

> #ceph orch ps --daemon-type mds

> NAME HOST PORTS STATUS REFRESHED AGE MEM USE MEM LIM VERSION IMAGE ID 
> CONTAINER
> ID

> mds.cephfs.node1.ojmpnk rke-sh1-1 running (18h) 4m ago 19M 1709M - 19.2.2
> 4892a7ef541b 8dd8db30a1de

> mds.cephfs.node2.isqjza rke-sh1-2 running (18h) 2m ago 3y 1720M - 19.2.2
> 4892a7ef541b 7b9d5b692764

> mds.cephfs.node3.vdicdn rke-sh1-3 running (18h) 108s ago 18M 27.9M - 19.2.2
> 4892a7ef541b d2de22a15e18

> root@node1:~# ceph config show-with-defaults mds.cephfs.rke-sh1-3.vdicdn | 
> egrep
> "mds_cache_trim_threshold|mds_cache_trim_decay_rate|mds_cache_memory_limit|mds_recall_max_caps|mds_recall_max_decay_rate"

> mds_cache_memory_limit 4294967296 default

> mds_cache_trim_decay_rate 1.000000 default

> mds_cache_trim_threshold 262144 default

> mds_recall_max_caps 30000 default

> mds_recall_max_decay_rate 1.500000 default

> root@node2:~# ceph config show-with-defaults mds.cephfs.rke-sh1-2.isqjza | 
> egrep
> "mds_cache_trim_threshold|mds_cache_trim_decay_rate|mds_cache_memory_limit|mds_recall_max_caps|mds_recall_max_decay_rate"

> mds_cache_memory_limit 4294967296 default

> mds_cache_trim_decay_rate 1.000000 default

> mds_cache_trim_threshold 262144 default

> mds_recall_max_caps 30000 default

> mds_recall_max_decay_rate 1.500000 default

> root@node3:~# ceph config show-with-defaults mds.cephfs.rke-sh1-1.ojmpnk | 
> egrep
> "mds_cache_trim_threshold|mds_cache_trim_decay_rate|mds_cache_memory_limit|mds_recall_max_caps|mds_recall_max_decay_rate"

> mds_cache_memory_limit 4294967296 default

> mds_cache_trim_decay_rate 1.000000 default

> mds_cache_trim_threshold 262144 default

> mds_recall_max_caps 30000 default

> mds_recall_max_decay_rate 1.500000 default

> # ceph mds stat

> cephfs:1 {0=cephfs.node1.ojmpnk=up:active} 1 up:standby-replay 1 up:standby

> Do you have an idea on what could happen ? Should I increate
> mds_cache_trim_decay_rate ?

> I saw the folloing issue : [ https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/66948 | Bug 
> #66948:
> mon.a (mon.0) 326 : cluster [WRN] Health check failed: 1 MDSs behind on
> trimming (MDS_TRIM)" in cluster log - CephFS - Ceph ] ( [
> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/60838 | squid: mds: trim mdlog when segments
> exceed threshold and trim was idle by vshankar · Pull Request #60838 ·
> ceph/ceph · GitHub ] ) maybe related ?

There's a fair chance, yes as you said MDS_TRIM alert came after the upgrade, 
Reef is immune to this bug (as not using major/minor log segment changes) and 
Squid v19.2.2 does not contain the fix. 

Wou could try decreasing mds_recall_max_decay_rate to 1 (instead of 1.5) 

Regards, 
Frédéric. 

> Thanks for the help 😊

> Best Regards, Edouard Fazenda.

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