The servers our Ceph runs on are all R730xd machines.

I checked the Dell repository manager and it looks like there is at least one BIOS update that's newer than what we've already installed, so I've updated our Firmware repository and will schedule the updates now. That's going to take a long while.


On 16/04/2025 16:16, Anthony D'Atri wrote:
For whatever reason, in recent years I’ve seen these more often with Dells than 
other systems.  My first thought was that maybe you were running an ancient 
kernel, but then I saw that you aren’t.  Is the kernel you’re running the stock 
one that comes with your distribution?  I’ve seen CPU reset events on R750s 
running an elrepo kernel.

I suspect that some code change may have tickled a latent issue that perhaps 
you were fortunate to have not previously run into, but this is entirely 
speculation.

On Apr 16, 2025, at 9:39 AM, Janek Bevendorff <janek.bevendo...@uni-weimar.de> 
wrote:

Yes, they are older Dell PowerEdges. I have to check whether there's newer 
firmware, but we've been running Ceph for years without these problems.

I checked the logs on the host on which I had a lockup just an hour ago, but 
there's nothing besides the expected hardreset messages. There are two older 
watchdog messages, but they are from March:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SeqNumber       = 2089
Message ID      = ASR0000
Category        = System
AgentID         = SEL
Severity        = Critical
Timestamp       = 2025-03-27 07:16:03
Message         = The watchdog timer expired.
RawEventData    = 
0x03,0x00,0x02,0x33,0xFB,0xE4,0x67,0x20,0x00,0x04,0x23,0x71,0x6F,0xC0,0x04,0xFF

FQDD            = WatchdogTimer.iDRAC.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SeqNumber       = 2088
Message ID      = ASR0000
Category        = System
AgentID         = SEL
Severity        = Critical
Timestamp       = 2025-03-27 07:06:41
Message         = The watchdog timer expired.
RawEventData    = 
0x02,0x00,0x02,0x01,0xF9,0xE4,0x67,0x20,0x00,0x04,0x23,0x71,0x6F,0xC0,0x04,0xFF

FQDD            = WatchdogTimer.iDRAC.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I grepped the logs of another host where it happened, but couldn't find any 
watchtdog messages there. I believe it's also unlikely that suddenly all MDS 
hosts (we have five active, five hot standbys, and one cold standby) start 
having hardware issues. I also ran a memtest on one of the hosts last week and 
couldn't find anything there either.



On 16/04/2025 15:14, Anthony D'Atri wrote:
Curious, are your systems Dells?  If so you might see some improvement from 
running DSU to update all the firmware.  It might also be illuminating to run 
`racadm lclog view`

On Apr 16, 2025, at 8:32 AM, Janek Bevendorff <janek.bevendo...@uni-weimar.de> 
wrote:

Hi,

Since the latest Reef update I have the problem that some of my hosts suddenly 
go into a state where all CPUs are stuck in kernel mode causing all daemons on 
that host to become unresponsive. When I connect to the IPMI console, I see a 
lot of messages like:

watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#8 stuck for 47s! [cron:868840]

(it's basically a list of all processes running on the machine).

Usually, this resolves itself after several minutes, but sometimes I have to 
hardreset the host. When this happens, all daemons are marked as down and I 
cannot interact with the host at all. I don't know what causes this but, I 
think it happens primarily on the hosts where my MDS run and it seems to be 
triggered by events such as cluster rebalances, MDS restarts, or just randomly.

I found a few reports about similar issues on the bug tracker and mailing list, 
but they are all very unspecific, unanswered, or more than 6 years old.

Is there any way I can debug this? I upgraded to Squid already, but that didn't 
solve the problem. I also had massive issues with this during the upgrade. 
Particularly at the end when the MDS were upgraded, I had constant struggles 
with it. I had to set the noout flag and then literally sit next to it to 
resume the upgrade every few minutes until it finally went through, because 
random MDS hosts went intermittently dark all the time.

All hosts run Ubuntu 22.04 with kernel 6.8.0.

Any ideas? Thanks!
Janek

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