If you have a line on the data, I have connections that can store it or I
can consult pro bono on building a system to store it.

However wan-ceph is not the answer here.

On Sun, Apr 6, 2025, 11:08 PM Linas Vepstas <linasveps...@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK what you will read below might sound insane but I am obliged to ask.
>
> There are 275 petabytes of NIH data at risk of being deleted. Cancer
> research, medical data, HIPAA type stuff. Currently unclear where it's
> located, how it's managed, who has access to what, but lets ignore
> that for now. It's presumably splattered across data centers, cloud,
> AWS, supercomputing labs, who knows. Everywhere.
>
> I'm talking to a biomed person in Australias that uses NCBI data
> daily, she's in talks w/ Australian govt to copy and preserve the
> datasets they use. Some multi-petabytes of stuff. I don't know.
>
> While bouncing around tech ideas, IPFS and Ceph came up. My experience
> with IPFS is that it's not a serious contender for anything. My
> experience with Ceph is that it's more-or-less A-list.
>
> OK. So here's the question: is it possible to (has anyone tried) set
> up an internet-wide Ceph cluster? Ticking off the typical checkboxes
> for "decentralized storage"? Stuff, like: internet connections need to
> be encrypted. Connections go down, come back up. Slow. Sure, national
> labs may have multi-terabit fiber, but little itty-bitty participants
> trying to contribute a small collection of disks to a large pool might
> only have a gigabit connection, of which maybe 10% is "usable".
> Barely. So, a hostile networking environment.
>
> Is this like, totally insane, run away now, can't do that, it won't
> work idea, or is there some glimmer of hope?
>
> Am I misunderstanding something about IPFS that merits taking a second
> look at it?
>
> Is there any other way of getting scalable reliable "decentralized"
> internet-wide storage?
>
> I mean, yes, of course, the conventional answer is that it could be
> copied to AWS or some national lab or two somewhere in the EU or Aus
> or UK or where-ever, That's the "obvious" answer. I'm looking for a
> non-obvious answer, an IPFS-like thing, but one that actually works.
> Could it work?
>
> -- Linas
>
>
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