OK what you will read below might sound insane but I am obliged to ask.

There are 275 petabytes of NIH data at risk of being deleted. Cancer
research, medical data, HIPAA type stuff. Currently unclear where it's
located, how it's managed, who has access to what, but lets ignore
that for now. It's presumably splattered across data centers, cloud,
AWS, supercomputing labs, who knows. Everywhere.

I'm talking to a biomed person in Australias that uses NCBI data
daily, she's in talks w/ Australian govt to copy and preserve the
datasets they use. Some multi-petabytes of stuff. I don't know.

While bouncing around tech ideas, IPFS and Ceph came up. My experience
with IPFS is that it's not a serious contender for anything. My
experience with Ceph is that it's more-or-less A-list.

OK. So here's the question: is it possible to (has anyone tried) set
up an internet-wide Ceph cluster? Ticking off the typical checkboxes
for "decentralized storage"? Stuff, like: internet connections need to
be encrypted. Connections go down, come back up. Slow. Sure, national
labs may have multi-terabit fiber, but little itty-bitty participants
trying to contribute a small collection of disks to a large pool might
only have a gigabit connection, of which maybe 10% is "usable".
Barely. So, a hostile networking environment.

Is this like, totally insane, run away now, can't do that, it won't
work idea, or is there some glimmer of hope?

Am I misunderstanding something about IPFS that merits taking a second
look at it?

Is there any other way of getting scalable reliable "decentralized"
internet-wide storage?

I mean, yes, of course, the conventional answer is that it could be
copied to AWS or some national lab or two somewhere in the EU or Aus
or UK or where-ever, That's the "obvious" answer. I'm looking for a
non-obvious answer, an IPFS-like thing, but one that actually works.
Could it work?

-- Linas


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