"A containerized environment just makes troubleshooting more difficult, getting 
access and retrieving details on Ceph processes isn't as straightforward as 
with a non containerized infrastructure. I am still not convinced that 
containerizing everything brings any benefits except the collocation of 
services."
It changes the way you troubleshoot, but I don't find it more difficult in the 
issues I have seen and had. Even today without containers, all services can be 
co-located within the same hosts (mons,mgrs,osds,mds).. Is there a situation 
you've seen where that has not been the case?

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From: Teoman Onay <to...@redhat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 1:38 PM
To: Matthew H <matthew.he...@hotmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Vernon <m...@sanger.ac.uk>; ceph-users <ceph-users@ceph.io>
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Re: ceph-ansible in Pacific and beyond?

A containerized environment just makes troubleshooting more difficult, getting 
access and retrieving details on Ceph processes isn't as straightforward as 
with a non containerized infrastructure. I am still not convinced that 
containerizing everything brings any benefits except the collocation of 
services.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:27 PM Matthew H 
<matthew.he...@hotmail.com<mailto:matthew.he...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
There should not be any performance difference between an un-containerized 
version and a containerized one.

The shift to containers makes sense, as this is the general direction that the 
industry as a whole is taking. I would suggest giving cephadm a try, it's 
relatively straight forward and significantly faster for deployments then 
ceph-ansible is.

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From: Matthew Vernon <m...@sanger.ac.uk<mailto:m...@sanger.ac.uk>>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:50 PM
To: ceph-users <ceph-users@ceph.io<mailto:ceph-users@ceph.io>>
Subject: [ceph-users] ceph-ansible in Pacific and beyond?

Hi,

I caught up with Sage's talk on what to expect in Pacific (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVtn53MbxTc ) and there was no mention
of ceph-ansible at all.

Is it going to continue to be supported? We use it (and uncontainerised
packages) for all our clusters, so I'd be a bit alarmed if it was going
to go away...

Regards,

Matthew


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