Ahh, OK. I'm not sure if it has that effect. What people observed was, that 
rocks-DB access became faster due to system buffer cache hits. This has an 
indirect influence on data access latency.

The typical case is "high IOPs on WAL/DB device after upgrade" and setting 
bluefs_buffered_io=true got this back to normal also improving client 
performance as a result.

Your latency graphs look actually suspiciously like it should work for you. Are 
you sure the OSD is using the value? I had problems with setting some 
parameters, I needed to include them in the ceph.conf file and restart to force 
them through.

A sign that bluefs_buffered_io=true is applied is rapidly increasing system 
buffer usage reported by top or free. If the values reported are similar for 
all hosts, bluefs_buffered_io is still disabled.

If I may ask, what framework are you using to pull these graphs? Is there a 
graphana dashboard one can download somewhere or is it something you 
implemented yourself? I plan to enable prometheus on our cluster, but don't 
know about a good data sink providing a pre-defined dashboard.

Best regards,
=================
Frank Schilder
AIT Risø Campus
Bygning 109, rum S14

________________________________________
From: Björn Dolkemeier <b.dolkeme...@dbap.de>
Sent: 13 February 2021 08:51:11
To: Frank Schilder
Cc: ceph-users@ceph.io
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Latency increase after upgrade 14.2.8 to 14.2.16

Thanks for the quick reply, Frank.

Sorry, the graphs/attachment where filtered. Here is an example of one latency: 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qSWmSmZ6JXVweepcoY13ofhfWXrBi2uZ/view?usp=sharing

I’m aware that the overall performance depends on the slowest OSD.

What I expect is that  bluefs_buffered_io=true set on one OSD reflects in 
dropped latencies for that particular OSD.

Best regards,
Björn

Am 13.02.2021 um 07:39 schrieb Frank Schilder 
<fr...@dtu.dk<mailto:fr...@dtu.dk>>:

The graphs were forgotten or filtered out.

Changing the buffered_io value on one host will not change client IO 
performance as its always the slowest OSD thats decisive. However, it should 
have an effect on the IOP/s load reported by iostat on the disks on the host.

Does setting bluefs_buffered_io=true on all hosts have an effect on client IO? 
Note that it might need a restart even if the documentation says otherwise.

Best regards,
=================
Frank Schilder
AIT Risø Campus
Bygning 109, rum S14

________________________________________
From: Björn Dolkemeier <b.dolkeme...@dbap.de<mailto:b.dolkeme...@dbap.de>>
Sent: 13 February 2021 07:16:06
To: ceph-users@ceph.io<mailto:ceph-users@ceph.io>
Subject: [ceph-users] Latency increase after upgrade 14.2.8 to 14.2.16

Hi,

after upgrading Ceph from 14.2.8 to 14.2.16 we experienced increased latencies. 
There were no changes in hardware, configuration, workload or networking, just 
a rolling-update via ceph-ansible on running production cluster. The cluster 
consists of 16 OSDs (all SSD) over 4 Nodes. The VMs served via RBD from this 
cluster currently suffer on i/o wait cpu.

These are some latencies that are increased after the update:
- op_r_latency
- op_w_latency
- kv_final_lat
- state_kv_commiting_lat
- submit_lat
- subop_w_latency

Do these latencies point to KV/RocksDB?

These  are some latencies which are NOT increased after the update:
- kv_sync_lat
- kv_flush_lat
- kv_commit_lat

I attached one graph showing the massive increase after the update.

I tried setting bluefs_buffered_io=true (as it’s default value was changed and 
it was mentioned as performance relevant) for all OSDs in one host but this 
does not make a difference.

The ceph.conf is fairly simple:

[global]
cluster network = xxx
fsid = xxx
mon host = xxx
public network = xxx

[osd]
osd memory target = 10141014425

Any ideas what to try? Help appreciated.

Björn






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