Martin,

thanks a lot for the information. This is very interesting, and i will contact 
again if we decided to go this way.

best regards,

samuel



huxia...@horebdata.cn
 
From: Martin Verges
Date: 2020-03-22 20:50
To: huxia...@horebdata.cn
CC: ceph-users
Subject: Re: Questions on Ceph cluster without OS disks
Hello Samuel,

we from croit.io don't use NFS to boot up Servers. We copy the OS directly into 
the RAM (approximately 0.5-1GB). Think of it like a container, you start it and 
throw it away when you no longer need it.
This way we can save the slots of OS harddisks to add more storage per node and 
reduce overall costs as 1GB ram is cheaper then an OS disk and consumes less 
power.

If our management node is down, nothing will happen to the cluster. No impact, 
no downtime. However, you do need the mgmt node to boot up the cluster. So 
after a very rare total power outage, your first system would be the mgmt node 
and then the cluster itself. But again, if you configure your systems correct, 
no manual work is required to recover from that. For everything else, it is 
possible (but definitely not needed) to deploy our mgmt node in active/passive 
HA.

We have multiple hundred installations worldwide in production environments. 
Our strong PXE knowledge comes from more than 20 years of datacenter hosting 
experience and it never ever failed us in the last >10 years.

The main benefits out of that:
 - Immutable OS freshly booted: Every host has exactly the same version, same 
library, kernel, Ceph versions,...
 - OS is heavily tested by us: Every croit deployment has exactly the same 
image. We can find errors much faster and hit much fewer errors.
 - Easy Update: Updating OS, Ceph or anything else is just a node reboot. No 
cluster downtime, No service Impact, full automatic handling by our mgmt 
Software.
 - No need to install OS: No maintenance costs, no labor required, no other OS 
management required.
 - Centralized Logs/Stats: As it is booted in memory, all logs and statistics 
are collected on a central place for easy access.
 - Easy to scale: It doesn't matter if you boot 3 oder 300 nodes, all boot the 
exact same image in a few seconds.
 .. lots more

Please do not hesitate to contact us directly. We always try to offer an 
excellent service and are strongly customer oriented.

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Am Sa., 21. März 2020 um 13:53 Uhr schrieb huxia...@horebdata.cn 
<huxia...@horebdata.cn>:
Hello, Martin,

I notice that Croit advocate the use of ceph cluster without OS disks, but with 
PXE boot. 

Do you use a NFS server to serve the root file system for each node? such as 
hosting configuration files, user and password, log files, etc. My question is, 
will the NFS server be a single point of failure? If the NFS server goes down, 
the network experience any outage, ceph nodes may not be able to write to the 
local file systems, possibly leading to service outage.

How do you deal with the above potential issues in production? I am a bit 
worried...

best regards,

samuel






huxia...@horebdata.cn

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