On Wednesday, July 06, 2011 05:23:36 PM John R Pierce wrote:
> On 07/06/11 2:07 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> > This part of the thread is about DC input ATX power supplies, 

> ah.  thats not what is commonly referred to as 'the ATX connector', so I 
> was confused.

If you looked at the power supply Ljubomir previously linked to in the thread 
(not the PowerStream unit, but the picoPSU one), you'd see that that particular 
DC input power supply is built on the ATX connector itself and has no separate 
mechanical case.  And gets 160W output power; which is excellent, for an 
'on-connector' power supply.  The whole supply is not much larger than the ATX 
connector itself; seriously, go look at this little gem.

At that point you could put a 12V power supply and a sealed lead-acid battery 
inside the PC case where the PSU normally goes..... you'd just have to make 
sure you add a schottky diode in series, since this picoPSU requires regulated 
12VDC input and has overvoltage protection set around 13.0 to 13.5 volts (lead 
acid float voltage 13.8 typical).  A 13.5 volt dry cell string and a 13.5 volt 
regulated power supply with a pair of 1.5V drop power diodes preventing the dry 
cells from charging would also work, and that sort of arrangement would indeed 
be a 'torch' battery (common usage here is 'flashlight' rather than 
'torch').... and that would fit the needs of the OP.

The PowerStream unit can work with unregulated 9-18 volts input, and would be 
more suited to raw battery input.  Again, a diode isolator (similar to an 
automotive accessory battery isolator diode set) would be required if 
non-rechargeable batteries were to be used as the backup.

Speaking of, I actually have some old Mirapoint rackmounts, running CentOS of 
course, that have built-in UPS's and redundant PSU's; haven't been able to 
figure out whose UPS so that I could use them with apcupsd.
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