On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 02:51:45 PM John R Pierce wrote:
> On 04/12/11 6:02 AM, Marian Marinov wrote:
> >
> > Yes... but with such RAID10 solution you get only half of the disk space... 
> > so
> > from 10 2TB drives you get only 10TB instead of 16TB with RAID6.
> 
> those disks are $100 each.   whats your data worth?

Where can I get an enterprise-class 2TB drive for $100?  Commodity SATA isn't 
enterprise-class.  SAS is; FC is, SCSI is. A 500GB FC drive with EMC firmware 
new is going to set you back ten times that, at least.  What's youre data worth 
indeed, putting it on commodity disk.... :-)

> in this case, the OP is talking about a 40TB array, so thats a TWENTY 
> TWO drive raid.  NOONE I know in the storage business will use larger 
> than a 8 or 10 drive raid set.   

EMC allows RAID groups up to 16 drives on Clariion storage.  I've been doing 
this with EMC stuff for a while, with RAID6 plus a hotspare per DAE; that's a 
14 drive RAID group plus the hotspare on one DAE.  Some systems I forgo the 
dedicated per-DAE hotspare and spread a 16 drive RAID6 group and a 14 drive 
RAID6 group across two DAE's with hotspares on other DAE's.  Works ok, and I've 
had double drive soft failures on a single RAID6 group that successfully 
hotspared (and back).  This is partially due to the custom EMC firmware on the 
drives, and the interaction with the storage processor.

Rebuild time is several hours, but with more smaller drives it's not too bad.

> If you really need such a massive 
> volume, you stripe several smaller raidsets, so the raid6 version would 
> be 2 x 12 x 2TB or 24 drives for raid6+0 == 40TB.

Or you do metaLUNs, or similar using LVM.
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