On 1/21/21 2:24 PM, Frank Cox wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:57:19 -0600
Scott Techlist wrote:

So this will muddy the waters for the spin-offs like Rocky Linux, or kill
them?  I'd assume at least it would dilute who'd need an alternate Centos
replacement except those with more than 16 servers.  Or did I misunderstand
the announcement?

I don't see how this would create any issues for Rocky Linux and the like.  The 
new RHEL terms still require annual license activations (for every installation 
I think) and that's a point of friction that doesn't exist with Linux 
installations that are actually free.

With this new offering I've got to count my installations, track which ones I've torn 
down, which ones I've updated, which ones I've scrapped, which ones I'm running in a VM 
and which ones that I've installed on an "appliance" in the dusty corner to 
running a printing press, and when I get to the sixteenth installation then I need to pay 
up or start decommissioning stuff....

Or I could use a license-not-required distribution like Rocky or Oracle and 
avoid all of that.

I tried Oracle Linux. After installation it took forever to update yum database, or do you yum search. Also: I didn't find mirrors... All this sort of ruled it out for me. Mind that I have 1 Gbps network...

So my shop: servers: FreeBSD (for decade or so, since FreeBSD v. 8), number crunchers and workstations: Debian except for those that need NVIDIA binary driver or cuda, these rare ones will be Ubuntu.

In a hope this helps someone,

Valeri


I've got a number of machines with certain clients who bring their machine back 
to me every year or two (or whenever they figure they can spare it and happen 
to be heading this way) for updating.  I might not see one of those machines 
for a few years; they may not have any Internet connection in the field so it 
could be interesting if the machines tell them (or me) to buzz off because the 
license has expired.

If there were no other options then I guess there would have to be a way 
figured out to make this work anyway, but there are options and those options 
are certainly more attractive than dealing with license activations and all of 
the joy surrounding that sort of thing.


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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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