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Subject: [CentOS] Filesystem that doesn't store duplicate data 

Is there such a filesystem available? It seems like it wouldn't be too hard to 
implement... Basically do things on a block by block basis. Store md5 of a 
block in the table, and when writing a new block, check if the md5 already 
exists and then point the new block to the old block. Since md5 is not 
guaranteed unique, might need to do a diff between the 2 blocks and if the 
blocks are indeed different, handle it somehow. 

When modifying an existing block that has multiple pointers, copy the block and 
modify the new block. 

I know I'm oversimplifying things a lot, but something like this could work, 
no? Would be a great filesystem to store backups on, or things like vmware 
volumes... 

Russ 
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You are describing what I understand to be 'Data De-duplication". It is all the 
rage for backups as it has the potential to decrease backup times and volumes 
by significant amounts. I went to a presentation by Avamar (a partner of EMC ?) 
regarding this technology and it seemed really nice for your typical windows 
file server. I suppose it effectively turns your data into 'single-instance' 
which is no bad thing. I suppose it could be useful for large database backups 
as well. 

You'd think that using this technology on a live filesystem could incur a 
significant performance penalty due to all those calculations (fuse module 
anyone ?). Imagine a hardware optimized data de-duplication disk controller, 
similar to raid XOR optimized cpus. Now that would be cool. All it would need 
to store was meta-data when it had already seen the exact same block. I think 
fundamentally it is similar in result to on the fly disk compression. 

Let us know when you have a beta to test ! 

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