On 2/20/19 3:53 PM, Danilo Pecher wrote:
> 2. Although I've been rather inactive on the project itself, I've not
> been completely idle. I'm about 75% done in creating a CDE-based Linux
> distro based on LFS, complete with automated build. What do people
> think? Would there be a "market" for that? 

Personally, I'm not that interested in a custom CDE Linux distribution.
 Availability of CDE on existing Linux distributions is more appealing.
 What I try to do in my very limited spare time is build CDE for
installation on Fedora and RHEL systems.  We have a build system that
lets people build RPMs and publish yum repos for others to use without
having to go through the official package acceptance process.

> 4. I know work is going on for an autotools conversion. In that regard,
> I'd like to ask if we aren't going to end up being Betamax-man again. At
> least by the look of it, cmake/ninja/meson seem to be taking over in a
> growing number of projects. While we're at that, I'm going to set the
> cat among the pidgeons a bit. Would it not be a better idea to make a
> hard break with the current (chaotic and nigh-on impossible to
> comprehend) build system and switch to a clean-sheet rebuild for a 3.x
> release? Perhaps, if we do that, we might also get a chance of getting
> rid of the ksh-dependency for dtterm. That's been giving me rabies since
> 2016. ast-ksh seems to be all but unmaintained. and that's the only
> suitable candidate on a variety of platforms (BSD mainly, but also LFS,
> slackware and serveral other Linux variants on which it only builds on a
> sunny day with less than 3 knots of wind)

https://github.com/att/ast

I'm not sure there are tagged releases, but people are certainly
committing patches.

On the autotools topic, I would very much like to see a complete
conversion to an autotools build system for CDE over cmake or meson.
The biggest advantage I see to that is accessibility.  You can make a
release of CDE that includes configure ready to run.  No external
dependencies are required to generate the Makefiles.  cmake and meson
lack this and both are moving targets.  I also personally find the
syntax of cmake and use of -DCMAKE.... on the command line very
difficult to read.  ./configure has widespread knowledge and users
understand it.

Having done many autotools build systems for projects, I won't throw my
opinion out there without also volunteering to help write configure.ac
files and Makefile.am files.  Just let me know what needs to be done.

Thanks,

-- 
David Cantrell <dcantr...@redhat.com>
Red Hat, Inc. | Boston, MA | EST5EDT


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