Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] question about windows list

Thu, 14 Jun 2018 23:49:08 -0700


No. Alt-Tab or Alt-Esc do not work on stable, although my dtwmrc contains:

    Alt<Key>Tab            root|icon|window    f.next_key
    Alt Shift<Key>Tab        root|icon|window    f.prev_key
    Alt<Key>Escape        root|icon|window    f.next_key
    Alt Shift<Key>Escape    root|icon|window    f.prev_key

 I do not know if there is a conflict with other settings
(for example I use "focus follows mouse")

However, Alt-Down and Alt-Up work where these are set as
f.circle_down
f.circle_up

and these rotate the windows.
So this is not so bad, I will do my job.

However, I also think that a windows list either in a menu (middle click) or in a tray
similar to iconbox would be very useful since it will be faster to find the window you need
than rotate them.

Yes..., xmpager similar to Triteal CDE would be great too.

Thanks everyone,

Antonis.




On 15/06/2018 01:33 πμ, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:


On Jun 14, 2018, at 18:10, Matthew R. Trower <d...@blackshard.net> wrote:

‎However, even though I said that... neither alt-esc nor alt-tab are curr‎ently working for me (though the underlying functionality works when accessed from a menu, and other keybinds work fine as well). They have worked in the past. This could be a result of my private tree, or of something that's changed in master at some point. I haven't been able to bisect yet.

If it‎ is broken for Antonis, or anyone else, I'd very much like to know.
  Original Message
From: Jon Trulson
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 15:24
To: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] question about windows list

Oh, good point. I didn't read the last sentence. ALT-TAB should work...
-jon

On 06/14/2018 01:34 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote:

‎This functionality should be bound to either alt+tab or alt+esc by default. Do they not work for you?

Have a look through programs/dtwm/WmResource.c sometime for other interesting keybinds.
  Original Message
From: Antonis Tsolomitis
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 05:31
To: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [cdesktopenv-devel] question about windows list


Many times I find myself in a difficult situation where many windows are
open
covering each other and have trouble bringing forward the one I want.

CDE does not seem to have a utility for finding the window you want. Or
does it?

Is there any standalone maybe application for such a task ? Or any other
solution?
For example on more common desktops alt+tab rotates the windows and you
can choose.


Using grep on my dtwmrc file (Sun CDE, on Solaris 9, in this case), I find
    Alt<Key>Tab                 root|icon|window        f.next_key
    Alt Shift<Key>Tab           root|icon|window        f.prev_key
    Alt<Key>Escape              root|icon|window        f.next_key
    Alt Shift<Key>Escape        root|icon|window        f.prev_key
    Alt<Key>F6                  window                  f.next_key transient
    Alt Shift<Key>F6            window                  f.prev_key transient
    Alt<Key>Tab                 root|icon|window        f.next_key
    Alt Shift<Key>Tab           root|icon|window        f.prev_key
    Alt<Key>Escape              root|icon|window        f.next_key
    Alt Shift<Key>Escape        root|icon|window        f.prev_key
    Alt<Key>F6                  window                  f.next_key transient

In other words, it's ultimately variations on f.next_key and f.prev_key dtwm commands that do the job, and the keys used can be defined as one wishes (subject to possible  complications with some keyboards and X servers as to what constitutes Alt, etc).

A dtwmrc(4) man page (at least in Sun CDE) describes the various f. window manager command.  While normally they can only appear in a window manager configuration file (save that dtstyle sends a command to the window manager to restart it, when needed), there is a protocol for sending f. commands to dtwm, and I have a C program that uses my reverse engineering of it (via xscope, I think) that I wrote a long time ago.  Given the source of one of the shared libraries whose interfaces are not documented, it may be possible to rewrite the program to do it that way...but it does work, regardless.  Source for my program is at http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil/goodies/dtwmcmd.c

So one could step through windows, or workspaces even (there was once someone that wanted to do that, I gather for a system with various status displays in separate workstations, using a large display or projector) programatically.

My notes indicate at least two f. commands not documented in dtwmrc(4):
f.change_backdrop       appears to require pathname of pixmap file as
                           an argument

f.set_context           appears to require one numeric argument,
                        probably a window number (as shown by xlswins
                        or xwininfo -tree -root) WARNING: has been
                        observed to crash dtwm when given without
                        valid argument





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