If it's actually running on real z hardware Linux is probably already running under z/VM.
If it's running on Hercules, then....OK, but the host system could have handled the Infocom games without ever even blinking. But I've been known to do silly emulation tricks too: https://www.fsf.net/~adam/NT-on-390-desktop.png Adam On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:00 AM <cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Send cctalk mailing list submissions to > cctalk@classiccmp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cctalk-ow...@classiccmp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: AlphaServer 2100s available (Rob Jarratt) > 2. Re: AlphaServer 2100s available (Antonio Carlini) > 3. Adventures online (8...@128.ca) > 4. Looking for copy of BASIC ROM for HP 3396B Integrator II > (martin.heppe...@dlr.de) > 5. RE: Adventures online (Ali) > 6. Re: Adventures online (Kevin Lee) > 7. RE: Adventures online (Ali) > 8. Re: Adventures online (Kevin Monceaux) > 9. Re: Adventures online (Kevin Lee) > 10. RE: AlphaServer 2100s available (Rob Jarratt) > 11. HP3000 Microcode is in SYSDUMP (backup) for WCS machines > (64,68,70, 37,...) (Rodney Brown) > 12. Re: Adventures online (Doug Jackson) > 13. Re: Adventures online (Chris Zach) > 14. Re: Adventures online (Chuck Guzis) > 15. Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished > (David Gesswein) > 16. Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished > (David Gesswein) > 17. Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished (Chris Zach) > 18. Re: Adventures online (Grant Taylor) > 19. Altair 8800 reproduction (Tom Hunter) > 20. Re: Altair 8800 reproduction (Bill Degnan) > 21. Re: Adventures online (Grant Taylor) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 19:40:13 +0100 > From: "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com> > To: "'Dave Wade'" <dave.g4...@gmail.com>, "'General Discussion: > On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>, > <anto...@acarlini.com>, "'Antonio Carlini'" < > a.carl...@ntlworld.com> > Subject: RE: AlphaServer 2100s available > Message-ID: <00c101d66057$89b6fb20$9d24f160$@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I would like to come to see it when you get it Dave. I wish I could take > one too, I wonder if I could make room as the dimensions don't seem *that* > huge. > > Regards > > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Dave Wade via > > cctalk > > Sent: 21 July 2020 22:16 > > To: anto...@acarlini.com; 'Antonio Carlini' <a.carl...@ntlworld.com>; > 'General > > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > > Subject: RE: AlphaServer 2100s available > > > > Antonio, > > Happy to take one. Can collect. Be a nice companion for VAX and IBM P390. > > Keep hearing of Alphas but nothing has appeared. > > Dave > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Antonio > > > Carlini via cctalk > > > Sent: 21 July 2020 20:58 > > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > > > Subject: AlphaServer 2100s available > > > > > > I have three AlphaServer 2100 systems in storage in the UK > (Oxfordshire). > > > The storage, however, is due to be demolished (soon, but no fixed > date). > > > > > > > > > I won't have room to store these three systems, so if anyone would be > > > interested in offering them a home, then please get in touch! > > > > > > > > > I can probably get some pictures in the next day or two. > > > > > > > > > These systems were SMP Alphas and could sport as many as 4 CPUs. I'm > > > not sure of the configuration of these systems but I can probably find > > > that out soon. > > > > > > They have not been run since ~2003 so they may be in need of some TLC. > > > OTOH they are not rusted to death so you have a chance of getting them > > > back to life. > > > > > > > > > Just so you know what you might be dealing with these systems are > about: > > > 700mm H x 430mm W x 810mm L. > > > > > > > > > I can't find the weight in any of my references right now but they are > > > very heavy. Three people can move them up a slight slope with some > > > effort but you would not successfully lift it into a car (assuming > > > that it would fit). I'm planning to dismantle them to move them (i.e. > > > remove PSU/PSUs etc. until they are light enough to move). A tail-lift > > > would probably be the sane way to go (and is, indeed, how they got to > > > their current location. > > > > > > > > > I'm hoping that someone can step forward and offer one or more of > > > these machines a new home. Please contact me off-list (once you're > > > sure you understand what you are getting into :-)). > > > > > > > > > Antonio > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Antonio Carlini > > > anto...@acarlini.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:23:38 +0100 > From: Antonio Carlini <a.carl...@ntlworld.com> > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk, 'Dave Wade' <dave.g4...@gmail.com>, "'General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk@classiccmp.org > >, > anto...@acarlini.com > Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available > Message-ID: <8eabc8e8-a1d7-c626-e252-7aa7a8f91...@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 22/07/2020 19:40, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > I would like to come to see it when you get it Dave. I wish I could take > one too, I wonder if I could make room as the dimensions don't seem *that* > huge. > > > > Regards > > > Smaller than a VAX-11/780 or? a VAX 6000 or a VAX 7000. So yes, pretty > small :-) > > > The systems are now all provisionally spoken for. I can still try and > get some photos etc. of the various innards. > > > Antonio > > > -- > Antonio Carlini > anto...@acarlini.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:52:14 +0200 > From: 8...@128.ca > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Adventures online > Message-ID: <89c93c5f-e5dd-448a-80fc-71ba18326...@128.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure games > on a mainframe > > https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:19:45 +0000 > From: <martin.heppe...@dlr.de> > To: <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Looking for copy of BASIC ROM for HP 3396B Integrator II > Message-ID: <aa1e9dd115a349459386774e391fc...@dlr.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Recently, I obtained a HP 3396B Integrator II. > > This is a device for the chemical analysis laboratory. I had hoped that > this device contained a BASIC interpreter, but this was not the case. > > Through the serial interface I can connect a terminal program. Pressing > CTRL+BREAK outputs the sign-on message serial interface: > ~~HP3396,IBLI > > Unfortunately, typing "BX" for "Basic eXternal" on the keyboard tells me: > BASIC NOT INSTALLED > > So I am wondering, whether I can install a BASIC by replacing the ROM with > an EPROM. > > According to the "Installation and Service Manual", the ROM U 110 came in > two versions: > Z-80 Standard-ROM 03396-80012 > Z-80 BASIC-ROM 03396-80032 > This means that the BASIC is NOT in the cradled EPROM but in the ROM in > the lower right corner of the PCB. > My ROM 80013 is probably an revision of 80012. > > So: I need a copy of the 03396-80032 ROM chip. > > > Additionally, if someone has the manual "RS232 Programming Manual", P/N > 03396-90335", for the 3396 integrator. it would be great if he could scan > the document and make the content available. > > [I have the remaining manuals and already sent scans to the HP Museum in > Australia for making them available o their site. > > Main PCB: > +----------------+ +----------------+ > | PPP EPROM | | U 111 | > | 27C011-200V10 | | 27C010-150V10 | > | 03396-80106 | | 03396-80023 | > +----------------+ +----------------+ > > +----------------+ +----------------+ > | U 317 | | U 110 | > | 27128A | | ROM | > | 03396-80043 | | 03396-80013 | > +----------------+ +----------------+ > > Opening the Case > - remove transparent cover from printer compartment by pressing the hinge > flaps inside > - remove 2 screws close to rear edge, from top > - remove 2 screws in printer compartment from top > - remove keyboard: > - keyboard is "hinged" at the front with three rigid noses > - use a pry tool to open the 3 latches at the rear edge of the keyboard > plate > - lift the rear edge and pull the plate back > - if you are careful, the ribbon cable can stay in place, you can thread > the keyboard plate through the case opening > - lift case cover upwards > > > > Thank you for reading, > > Martin > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:37:52 -0700 > From: "Ali" <cct...@ibm51xx.net> > To: <8...@128.ca>, "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: Adventures online > Message-ID: <005b01d66067$f9b428c0$ed1c7a40$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > > Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure > > games on a mainframe > > > > https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > > Too popular for its own good. Currently failing due to a lack of memory. > > -Ali > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:51:02 +0200 > From: Kevin Lee <8...@128.ca> > To: Ali <cct...@ibm51xx.net>, "General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: <e6b117cd-3917-4e23-93cf-c1b1e66a8...@128.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Well still glad its getting used :) > cheers > > > > On 22 Jul 2020, at 22:37, Ali via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > >> Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > >> Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure > >> games on a mainframe > >> > >> https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > > > > > Too popular for its own good. Currently failing due to a lack of memory. > > > > -Ali > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:52:10 -0700 > From: "Ali" <cct...@ibm51xx.net> > To: "'Kevin Lee'" <8...@128.ca>, "'General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: Adventures online > Message-ID: <006201d66069$f8bfa4b0$ea3eee10$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Well still glad its getting used :) > > cheers > > > So am I except I want to use it as well LOL! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 16:15:57 -0500 > From: Kevin Monceaux <ke...@rawfeddogs.net> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <CCTalk@ClassicCmp.org> > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: <20200722211557.ga12...@rawfeddogs.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:52:14PM +0200, 821--- via cctalk wrote: > > > Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > > Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure games > > on a mainframe > > > > https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > What make/model mainframe are they running on, and what OS is it running? > > > -- > > Kevin > http://www.RawFedDogs.net > http://www.Lassie.xyz > http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org > Bruceville, TX > > What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! > Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 23:50:06 +0200 > From: Kevin Lee <8...@128.ca> > To: "ke...@rawfeddogs.net" <ke...@rawfeddogs.net>, "General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: <f033cc41-2932-42b8-9549-df0ade4b3...@128.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Ask the tweet included in the initial posting.. > I have nothing to do with it .. cheers > > > > On 22 Jul 2020, at 23:15, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:52:14PM +0200, 821--- via cctalk wrote: > > > >> Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > >> Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure > games > >> on a mainframe > >> > >> https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > > > What make/model mainframe are they running on, and what OS is it running? > > > > > > -- > > > > Kevin > > http://www.RawFedDogs.net > > http://www.Lassie.xyz > > http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org > > Bruceville, TX > > > > What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! > > Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 23:34:03 +0100 > From: "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com> > To: <anto...@acarlini.com>, <r...@jarratt.me.uk>, "'Dave Wade'" > <dave.g4...@gmail.com>, "'General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic > Posts'" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: AlphaServer 2100s available > Message-ID: <00e001d66078$33eeac30$9bcc0490$@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Well I suppose the important thing is that they have been spoken for. > Hopefully I will get to see Dave's in action. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Antonio Carlini <a.carl...@ntlworld.com> > > Sent: 22 July 2020 20:24 > > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; 'Dave Wade' <dave.g4...@gmail.com>; 'General > > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk@classiccmp.org>; > > anto...@acarlini.com > > Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available > > > > On 22/07/2020 19:40, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > > I would like to come to see it when you get it Dave. I wish I could > take one > > too, I wonder if I could make room as the dimensions don't seem *that* > huge. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Smaller than a VAX-11/780 or a VAX 6000 or a VAX 7000. So yes, pretty > small :- > > ) > > > > > > The systems are now all provisionally spoken for. I can still try and > > get some photos etc. of the various innards. > > > > > > Antonio > > > > > > -- > > Antonio Carlini > > anto...@acarlini.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:09:50 +1000 > From: Rodney Brown <rdbrown...@gmail.com> > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: HP3000 Microcode is in SYSDUMP (backup) for WCS machines > (64,68,70, 37,...) > Message-ID: <d4f4a716-0271-e089-9937-9c52f3a63...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > If written on a Series 64, 68 or 70, or on the Series 37 or it's > successors, > the first file on a SYSDUMP (Backup) tape may include the Microcode from > the > WCS (Writeable Control Store). Please collect such files if you have tapes > available that you can read. > > Note that the first file includes a concatenation of system objects, > ending with > (optionally) the directory so that may leak data that should remain > private. > > It's possible that the distribution tape for MPE V Release 3P G.40 that the > HP Computer Museum has http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?sw=442 > might > also include the WCS data. The bootable disc image for the Series 37 and > it's > successors will. The Museum website doesn't mention media for their 68. > > Thanks as always to Al Kossow for his BitSavers work. > > 30140-90045_Series_64_68_70_Microcode_Manual_Oct86.pdf > has a 543 page listing of the microcode assembly output, which should > wait for > better OCR software. > > SYSDUMP Format > > ? |-------------------------| <--- ENTRY POINT #1 (ROM BASED > ? |????? CHECKSUM?????????? | 0??? MACHINES) > ? |? AMIGO CHANNEL PROGRAM? | > --|??? WCS TABLE PRT??????? | 95 > | |-------------------------| 127 > | |--???????????????????? --| > | |--?? AMIGO???????????? --| > | |-------------------------| > ->|???? WCS TABLE?????????? | > | |-------------------------| > > ... > G.01.00 > 16- 10 > > 32033-90010_MPE_V-E_Tables_G.00.00_Sep84.pdf? 16-7? pg 127 in PDF > 32033-90040_MPE_V-E_Tables_G.01.00_Jan85.pdf? 16-10 pg 133 in PDF > 32033-91047_MPE_V_Tables_Manual_Oct1991.pdf?? 16-10 pg 146 in PDF > Descriptions of the WCS Table Format are in 16-13 to 16-15 of the 1991 > edition > Different formats for the Series 6x/70 and the Series 37, 37XP and 37 Micro > > #Capture of Co-Cam's Series 52 final full backup (SYSDUMP @.@.@) in Feb > 1995. > (So no WCS table entry) > # 0 is the first file on the tape, the start of which is documented above > > $ od -Ad --endian=big -tx2 0 | head - 40 > 0000000 e0e0 0000 0009 0813 0909 0301 0003 0000 > 0000016 0400 0e41 0180 0002 0501 0000 0000 fff5 > 0000032 0401 0001 0000 0400 0e43 0200 0000 0501 > 0000048 0000 0000 ffea 0300 007e 0440 8000 0200 > 0000064 0000 0002 0000 fff1 0407 0001 0000 4400 > 0000080 0e43 0302 0002 0000 0400 0e40 0200 0000 > 0000096 0501 0000 f38d ffd1 0000 0000 0000 0000 > 0000112 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 > * > 0000176 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 > 0000192 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 > * > 0000256 0000 0000 0009 0813 0909 0301 0003 0000 > 0000272 0400 0201 0180 0002 0401 002e 0001 8800 > 0000288 0204 0f07 0000 0200 0000 0501 0000 0000 > 0000304 ffec 0000 fff1 0401 0001 0000 0400 0203 > 0000320 0200 0000 0501 0000 0000 ffdf 0300 0100 > 0000336 0440 8000 0e40 0000 0002 0000 fff1 0407 > 0000352 0001 0000 4400 0203 0302 0002 0000 0400 > 0000368 0200 0200 0000 0501 0000 0c02 ffc6 0000 > 0000384 0000 002d 0000 0000 0000 002d 0000 0000 > * > 0000416 000a 0000 f000 000c 000b 0016 f000 0017 > 0000432 000b 000b f000 0022 000b 0000 f000 0000 > 0000448 0000 002d 0000 0000 0000 002d 0000 0000 > * > 0000624 0000 002d 0000 0000 0000 002d 0000 3238 > 0000640 3333 4120 2020 0000 1820 0000 1000 15d8 > 0000656 2eb4 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 > 0000672 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 > ... > > $ head -20 blks/0.blks # tape block sizes in bytes > 256 > 126 > 256 * 2 > 8192 * 6 > 256 > 8192 * 2 > 256 > 126 > 256 > 8192 * 10 > 256 > 8192 * 10 > 256 > 8192 * 10 > 256 > 96 > 2910 > 80 > 24 > > $ ls -lh 0 > -r-xr-xr-x 1 rdb rdb 3.5M Dec 12? 2006 0 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 12:35:33 +1000 > From: Doug Jackson <d...@doughq.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: > <CAM_9E60RKe-D8ynRrNL= > op+hnkvor24cdmtg1jqtn6vsucg...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Sadly, the original tweet doesn't mention what mainframe - Somebody did > ask, and there was no response I could see. > > The error messages suggest it's some sort of Linux system using Docker > containers, so it's not OS/360 :-) > > I suspect given that it's running out of memory, that it's yet another > linux box. > > > > Kindest regards, > > Doug Jackson > > em: d...@doughq.com > ph: 0414 986878 > > Check out my awesome clocks at www.dougswordclocks.com > Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Just like an old fashioned letter, this email and any files transmitted > with it should probably be treated as confidential and intended solely for > your own use. > > Please note that any interesting spelling is usually my own and may have > been caused by fat thumbs on a tiny tiny keyboard. > > Should any part of this message prove to be useful in the event of the > imminent Zombie Apocalypse then the sender bears no personal, legal, or > moral responsibility for any outcome resulting from its usage unless the > result of said usage is the unlikely defeat of the Zombie Hordes in which > case the sender takes full credit without any theoretical or actual legal > liability. :-) > > Be nice to your parents. > > Go outside and do something awesome - Draw, paint, walk, setup a > radio station, go fishing or sailing - just do something that makes you > happy. > > ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G- In more laid back days this line would literally > sing ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G > > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:50 AM Kevin Lee via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > Ask the tweet included in the initial posting.. > > I have nothing to do with it .. cheers > > > > > > > On 22 Jul 2020, at 23:15, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:52:14PM +0200, 821--- via cctalk wrote: > > > > > >> Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > > >> Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure > > games > > >> on a mainframe > > >> > > >> https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > > > > > What make/model mainframe are they running on, and what OS is it > running? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kevin > > > http://www.RawFedDogs.net > > > http://www.Lassie.xyz > > > http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org > > > Bruceville, TX > > > > > > What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! > > > Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:52:14 -0400 > From: Chris Zach <c...@alembic.crystel.com> > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: <6ae549f7-011e-8c1b-4858-769d427ba...@alembic.crystel.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Just put up a big pdp11 and be done with it. Hm. Running on Simh a fully > loaded 11 should handle just about anything the internet could toss at > it... > > C > > On 7/22/2020 10:35 PM, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Sadly, the original tweet doesn't mention what mainframe - Somebody did > > ask, and there was no response I could see. > > > > The error messages suggest it's some sort of Linux system using Docker > > containers, so it's not OS/360 :-) > > > > I suspect given that it's running out of memory, that it's yet another > > linux box. > > > > > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Doug Jackson > > > > em: d...@doughq.com > > ph: 0414 986878 > > > > Check out my awesome clocks at www.dougswordclocks.com > > Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Just like an old fashioned letter, this email and any files transmitted > > with it should probably be treated as confidential and intended solely > for > > your own use. > > > > Please note that any interesting spelling is usually my own and may have > > been caused by fat thumbs on a tiny tiny keyboard. > > > > Should any part of this message prove to be useful in the event of the > > imminent Zombie Apocalypse then the sender bears no personal, legal, or > > moral responsibility for any outcome resulting from its usage unless the > > result of said usage is the unlikely defeat of the Zombie Hordes in which > > case the sender takes full credit without any theoretical or actual legal > > liability. :-) > > > > Be nice to your parents. > > > > Go outside and do something awesome - Draw, paint, walk, setup a > > radio station, go fishing or sailing - just do something that makes you > > happy. > > > > ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G- In more laid back days this line would literally > > sing ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:50 AM Kevin Lee via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > > wrote: > > > >> Ask the tweet included in the initial posting.. > >> I have nothing to do with it .. cheers > >> > >> > >>> On 22 Jul 2020, at 23:15, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk < > >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:52:14PM +0200, 821--- via cctalk wrote: > >>> > >>>> Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > >>>> Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure > >> games > >>>> on a mainframe > >>>> > >>>> https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > >>> > >>> What make/model mainframe are they running on, and what OS is it > running? > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Kevin > >>> http://www.RawFedDogs.net > >>> http://www.Lassie.xyz > >>> http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org > >>> Bruceville, TX > >>> > >>> What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! > >>> Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:42:58 -0700 > From: Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> > To: Chris Zach via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: <5f853e65-1d98-cdca-78c5-1cb9f7c86...@sydex.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 7/22/20 7:52 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > > Just put up a big pdp11 and be done with it. > > A PDP11 might be a "mainframe" (personally, I'd call it a minicomputer), > but in the world of mainframes, it's hardly "big". > > FWIW, > Chuck > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 18:38:20 -0400 > From: David Gesswein <d...@pdp8online.com> > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished > Message-ID: <20200722223820.GA4802@hugin3> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 05:12:10PM -0400, Chris Zach wrote: > > Working on it. Question: Was the 67mb drive in a 7300/3B1 a miniscribe > 6085? > > > Yes it was. http://www.pdp8online.com/3b1/drive.shtml > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 18:54:30 -0400 > From: David Gesswein <d...@pdp8online.com> > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished > Message-ID: <20200722225430.GB4802@hugin3> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:58:01AM -0700, Ian Finder wrote: > > I may be able to track down floppies for 7300 TCP, if we can confirm it > is > > extinct in the wild... > > > It may exist but is wounded. > > https://archives.loomcom.com/retrocomputing/UnixPC/Install/standardized/ethernet/ > > All the 10S disks seem to have been read in a way that only got 9 sectors > per track so are no good. The ethernet_hardware_diag.dd is bad. The files > are in multiple locations on this site but any 10S image thats not 404480 > is > bad. > > Manual is here > https://archives.loomcom.com/retrocomputing/UnixPC/3B1_Docs/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:22:12 -0400 > From: Chris Zach <c...@alembic.crystel.com> > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished > Message-ID: <fa6e0648-a9a6-8dd6-36af-42dc43e5d...@alembic.crystel.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hm. Then I have a dillema. When I popped in the Miniscribe and tried > booting it started reading the disk then popped out a boot error. > Possibly a bad sector, but how can I read this disk to find the rest of > the data? > > Hm.... Anyone got one of those Beaglebone/RPI to MFM readers I could > borrow for a bit to slurp this drive? > > C > > On 7/22/2020 6:38 PM, David Gesswein via cctech wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 05:12:10PM -0400, Chris Zach wrote: > >> Working on it. Question: Was the 67mb drive in a 7300/3B1 a miniscribe > 6085? > >> > > Yes it was. http://www.pdp8online.com/3b1/drive.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 23:32:41 -0600 > From: Grant Taylor <cct...@gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net> > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: > <35e88690-9ada-e57b-281e-cbfdbfc54...@gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 7/22/20 8:35 PM, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Sadly, the original tweet doesn't mention what mainframe - Somebody > > did ask, and there was no response I could see. > > I asked @bmoshix what the system was. I've not gotten a reply yet. > > > The error messages suggest it's some sort of Linux system using Docker > > containers, so it's not OS/360 :-) > > I half way expect that it's Docker running on z/OS. > > > I suspect given that it's running out of memory, that it's yet another > > linux box. > > It could be Docker on Linux on Z, but I'd be mildly surprised by that. > I doubt it's Linux on a more typical system. Though the following file > name in the dump makes me think it's AMD-64 architecture. > > /usr/local/go/src/runtime/asm_amd64.s > > > > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 22:39:20 +0800 > From: Tom Hunter <ccth6...@gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Altair 8800 reproduction > Message-ID: > <CAALEduAgZnPn=1ebHadg3vyTW486= > woriqxevzuwg4nyum7...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > About 10 years ago Grant Stockly in Anchorage Alaska produced high quality > MITS Altair 8800 reproductions in kit form. The website still exists: > http://www.altairkit.com/ > > I have tried to contact Grant but did not get a reply. Does anyone know if > these kits are still available? Is Grant on this forum? > > Alternatively is somebody else making complete Altair 8800 kits? I have > found people making individual boards but not a complete kit. > > There is also the Altair 8800 clone which is based on a PIC microcontroller > emulating the entire original Altair 8800. It is cute but not the real > thing. > > Thanks > Tom Hunter > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 11:09:14 -0400 > From: Bill Degnan <billdeg...@gmail.com> > To: Tom Hunter <ccth6...@gmail.com>, "General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Altair 8800 reproduction > Message-ID: > <CABGJBueOtGo6+CGCx0_xC6oe+uMO= > z2vk7q0+xrghfod8h-...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > This comes up from time to time, I don't believe he is making any more > kits. I have not heard from him for a while. > Bill > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:39 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > About 10 years ago Grant Stockly in Anchorage Alaska produced high > quality > > MITS Altair 8800 reproductions in kit form. The website still exists: > > http://www.altairkit.com/ > > > > I have tried to contact Grant but did not get a reply. Does anyone know > if > > these kits are still available? Is Grant on this forum? > > > > Alternatively is somebody else making complete Altair 8800 kits? I have > > found people making individual boards but not a complete kit. > > > > There is also the Altair 8800 clone which is based on a PIC > microcontroller > > emulating the entire original Altair 8800. It is cute but not the real > > thing. > > > > Thanks > > Tom Hunter > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:32:42 -0600 > From: Grant Taylor <cct...@gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net> > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: > <edc2ecdd-4165-9e36-0e14-4fc3346cc...@gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 7/22/20 11:32 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: > > I asked @bmoshix what the system was.? I've not gotten a reply yet. > > @bmoshix replied that it's Linux running on a mainframe. > > > I half way expect that it's Docker running on z/OS. > > So, apparently not Docker running on z/OS. > > > It could be Docker on Linux on Z, but I'd be mildly surprised by that. > > I'm mildly surprised. > > > I doubt it's Linux on a more typical system. Though the following > > file name in the dump makes me think it's AMD-64 architecture. > > > > /usr/local/go/src/runtime/asm_amd64.s > > Now I'm more confused as to why asm_amd64.s, something I assume is > related to x86_64 ~> PC (compatible) is being used. > > I wonder if the copies of the games that @bmoshix is running were > written for a mainframe or a PC (compatible). The latter makes more > sense with the asm_amd64.s and comments about installing these games on > a PC. > > > > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die > > > End of cctalk Digest, Vol 70, Issue 22 > ************************************** >
