On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Robert Jarratt wrote: > > One possibility is SRM unmaps them when it takes over from SROM, for > > safety maybe -- so as not to let one corrupt flash by accident easily > (BTW, I do > > recommend write-protecting flash with its jumper for these experiments -- > > with DROM not working correctly and hence no way to load SRM from a > > floppy you'd be doomed if flash broke too). The symptoms should look like > > ones you've got, though of course plain poking at the wrong area would > look > > the same. > > > I will check for unmapping, but I get a machine check when I write code > running in OpenVMS that attempts to write to the same physical location. > This assumes my code is correct of course, which is what I was trying to > verify by using the console.
Well, the symptoms appear consistent then (I thought in OpenVMS you got a freeze), so I suspect my guess about unmapping is right. > This makes me wonder if the problem is that the DROM is getting the same > errors. But I am not sure if that can be true because then the DROM would > not be able to write to the diagnostic LEDs either (and the SROM wouldn't be > able to load the DROM, presumably). Correct -- if you do get a machine check as early as accessing the index register, then it looks like the glue logic for flashbus doesn't respond to a write cycle (there's no decoding enabled for the address requested) and you get a bus timeout/abort. Given that at this point you are only about to select a particular device on flashbus it would equally happen for any, including the LEDs. Unless there is a timing requirement for the data register to see an access soon enough after an index write or a bus error happens -- which I highly doubt given the crudeness of the logic (i.e. even the read/write signal is explicit rather than decoded from the data register access bus cycle). > > You could check if flashbus is mapped by peeking at bank 8 memory > > controller registers and seeing if the contents provide the necessary > wiring > > (in particular if bit #0 aka `s8_Valid' in the 16-bit word at > > 0x180000b00 is 1). These registers are listed in the same manual -- with > a > > further reference to the (rather fat) memory controller manual. If not, > then > > you'd have to set them yourself. There could be PALcode entry points to > > access flashbus too I suppose, although regrettably my Alpha-fu is not so > > deep as to know this offhand. > > > I need to understand more about the Alpha architecture to understand this, > but I will check. All I can say is that I did try to read the bank 8 base > address register and I did get a value, but I didn't undertand what it > meant. Will do some reading. OK, just shout if you find yourself lost. Maciej