Hi Doeke,

I've encountered this issue quite often.

The information should ideally be stored in the _diffrn.details flag, but 
that's not always the case. Typically, the first array of reflections 
corresponds to X-ray data and the second to neutron data, but this isn't always 
reliable. There are cases where reflections are missing, or X-ray reflections 
are mislabeled as neutron reflections and vice versa.

For example, in the case of 5A93, the second array of reflections is named 
data_r5a93Neutronsf, making it clear. However, in cases like 7UCR, it's not as 
obvious.

One way to determine which data array corresponds to which experiment is by 
computing R-work using both X-ray and neutron scattering factors for each data 
set. The incorrect set of scattering factors will result in significantly 
higher R factors. While not ideal, this method is often the only option when no 
other information is available.

If you need to extract data arrays from a combined sf.cif file, you can easily 
do so using gemmi:

gemmi cif2mtz -B 2 file-sf.cif file.mtz

Here, -B 2 specifies the second block in the file.

Hope helps.
Lucrezia



Lucrezia Catapano, PhD (she/her)
Postdoctoral Scientist, Murshudov Group
MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
Francis Crick Avenue,
Cambridge CB2 0QH, UK.
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> Maybe a dumb question. When looking at some PDB entries based on joint X-ray 
> and neutron refinement (e.g., 5A93, 7UCR), we’re confused about what is 
> stored in the PDB-provided sfCIF files and/or how to tell the neutron 
> diffraction from X-ray diffraction data. 
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> For example, for 5A93 I’d infer the sfCIF contains neutron data based on the 
> resolution limit, but I don’t recognize any flag telling me more.
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