Dear all, That's the kind of interesting question that triggers me to have a closer look at PDB entries ... just to convince myself that a value of 30% RSRZ outliers really is as disturbing as I initially thought.
One can go through all available validation reports of X-Ray PDB structures and extract the _pdbx_vrpt_summary_diffraction.percent_RSRZ_outliers value. This gives the attached plot percent_RSRZ_outliers.png (with the same plot also on logscale and as a close-up to zoom into the >20% range). * Looking at it his way, only 0.32% of current PDB entries have a RSRZ outlier of 30% or higher. Unless one has e.g. a 3-residue small peptide structure with one poor residue I would be very reluctant to stick with the model/data in its current shape ;-) * Most of those very high values seem very suspect and are most likely due to problems with the reflection data (or the use of it in the validation software), i.e. deposited CIF file is corrupted compared to the original file a user tried to deposit: * out of the 193 structures with a value of 50% or higher, there are 8 structures with a reported resolution below 4A * but there are also 70 structures of 1.5A or better * 8 of the apparently "worst" structures (100% RSRZ outliers) have a reported resolution of 1.32-0.96A ... unlikely that those density-fit parts of the validation reports are correctly reflecting the model [1]. Not sure that helps much, but it satisfied my curiosity at least :-) Cheers Clemens [1] Looking at those high-resolution, poor density fit structures is quite entertaining: some have all density shifted (maybe deposited the wrong reflection data for the correct model, which can happen for large group depositions). Others have some really dodgy look-n-feel on the PDBpeep server that analyses the deposited data. On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 11:43:15PM +0800, 白雪慧 wrote: > Happy New Year, everyone. > > Recently, I have encountered some problems when submitting PDB, and I have > seen some discussions about these problems before. > > Meanwhile, I still want to ask how to reduce the RSRZ outliers in the wwPDB > validation report, is there any good way to reduce the RSRZ outliers > > in the WWPDB Validation report? I enclose my alidation report. > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing > list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ -- *-------------------------------------------------------------- * Clemens Vonrhein, Ph.D. vonrhein AT GlobalPhasing DOT com * Global Phasing Ltd., Sheraton House, Castle Park * Cambridge CB3 0AX, UK www.globalphasing.com *-------------------------------------------------------------- ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/