Hello, with a=b in both cases, I am sure you have considered tetragonal. I 
remember convincing myself something was F222 when it actually was I422.

Best wishes, Jon Cooper.
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On 08/07/2024 12:07, Nichols, Charlie  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to recapitulate a published crystallisation system. The published 
> crystal form is P212121 approx cell dimensions 80, 80, 120 // 90, 90, 90 with 
> one trimer in the ASU
>
> We did not get any crystals in the published conditions but have found a new 
> condition giving data to a much higher resolution than the published one but 
> there is a problem…
>
> New crystal form is F222 with approx cell dimensions 40, 40, 120 // 90, 90, 
> 90 – this cell is too small to fit one monomer let alone one trimer.
>
> The prep is remarkably clean and there is a high volume of crystals in the 
> drop so unlikely to be a contaminant. I have tried molrep with individual 
> domains in case there has been degradation during crystallisation but this 
> does not look at all promising.
>
> I am wondering, given the almost exact halving of the a/b cell dimensions and 
> almost exact equivalence of the c cell dimension, whether this is a 
> particularly egregious form of twinning where the twin is three 2-fold screw 
> axes to cause an apparent reduction in the unit cell.
>
> Is there a way to expand the data from the current 40, 40, 120 // 90, 90, 90 
> unit cell to the larger ‘super-cell’ 80, 80, 120 // 90, 90, 90 with four 
> copies of the data to then attempt either molep or just twin refinement with 
> the original published model?
>
> Any comments / help appreciated – NB: I can’t share the actual data or even 
> the target as they are confidential client data…
>
> Thanks, take care,
>
> Charlie Nichols
>
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