Hi Morgan,

Some of the things that you could try with the conditions that you have already 
found:

1) Lower the temperature for incubation, which might slow down crystal 
formation and decrease potential defects as the crystals form

2) Harvest the crystals using a humidity control device like the Watershed from 
MiTeGen

3) Try adding oil to the top of the well and harvest through the oil as 
cryoprotectant

4) Try different cryos and different methods of adding cryoprotectant

5) Try collecting at room temperature – that may help identify if the issue is 
the crystals or the cryo

Finally, you may need to find other conditions in which your complex forms 
crystals.  Feel free to reach out to the National Crystallization Center at HWI 
if you need assistance with finding new conditions (www.getacrystal.org).

Good luck!
Sarah

Sarah EJ Bowman PhD
Associate Investigator | Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
Director | National High-Throughput Crystallization Center

p: +1 716 898 8623
e: sbowman at hwi.buffalo.edu

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Crystallization Center Webpage<http://www.getacrystal.org>

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Subject: [ccp4bb] Fragile Crystals

Hello! I am a PhD student working on a crystallography project to wrap up my 
dissertation research. I have purified a complex of two proteins, and I can 
consistently grow crystals in 10% PEG3350,
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Hello!

I am a PhD student working on a crystallography project to wrap up my 
dissertation research. I have purified a complex of two proteins, and I can 
consistently grow crystals in 10% PEG3350, 0.2M KSCN, 0.1M BIS-TRIS propane pH 
7.5. These crystals have sharp edges and can grow to a large size (greater than 
0.5 mm), but the crystals seem to be very fragile. When we open the drops to 
harvest the crystals, we have little time to harvest the crystals before they 
crack. When we move the crystals to a cryoprotectant, over time they start 
fracturing. We've tried using different percentages of glycerol, ethylene 
glycol, PEG400, and oil for cryoprotectants with no success. Needless to say, 
the crystals do not diffract well, with spot patterns that look very 
streaky/mosaic, which I presume is due to the defects that we see in 
harvesting/handling. We have screened for alternate crystallization conditions, 
but we seem to get the same morphology in other conditions. Does anyone have 
suggestions for additives we could use post-crystallization to help stabilize 
our crystals?

Thanks for your advice!

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