Hello,

I can confirm that this happens in 0.9.8.7. The problem is intermittent and I 
have not been able to determine what causes it so far. Some residues just fall 
apart into atoms as a result of real space refinement.

Best,
Yaroslav

Yaroslav Tsybovsky, Ph.D. (contractor)
Senior Scientist & Head
Vaccine Research Center Electron Microscopy Unit
Frederick National Laboratory for Cancer Research
Leidos Biomedical Research, Inc.
Post Office Box B
Frederick, Maryland 21702
Phone: 301-846-7550



From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of David Lawson 
(JIC)
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 6:45 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] real space refinement broken in COOT 0.9.8.8 EL?

Hi All,

Is it just me, but is real space refinement broken in COOT 0.9.8.8 EL? I am 
seeing this working through CCP4i2 (CCP4-8.0.012) and CCP4 cloud (v 1.7) on an 
M1 iMac (running Monterey 12.6.7). I am working on a protein-DNA complex and 
finding that often when I do real space refinement (well, I mostly use tandem 
refinement) the atoms just shoot off in one direction to give a very scrambled 
structure, even if I am just doing final tweaks on a close to final structure. 
I don't know if it has something to do with the DNA restraints, because 
refining the protein in regions distant from the DNA seems fine, whereas 
working on protein regions close to the DNA, or on the DNA itself, generally 
results in a mess.

However, if I revert to COOT 0.9.6 EL (as distributed with CCP4-7) with the 
same input files, the problem goes away.

Any help much appreciated,

Dave

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Department of Biochemistry and Metabolism,
John Innes Centre,
Norwich,
NR4 7UH, UK.
Tel: +44-(0)1603-450725
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